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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-11-03 05:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #3226 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3226 ⌋

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[Steven Universe]


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[Excess Baggage]


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[Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans]


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(Anonymous) 2015-11-03 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. I'm American Caucasian and I dated a Japanese girl while in Japan. Though, the most shocking part of that relationship was that we were lesbians. She was not out to her family, but I don't know which part of the shock would've been worse for them. lol

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2015-11-04 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
Depends how old you are. If you were both mid 20's or younger they probably would have written off the lesbian thing as "a phase", and been more shocked about the fact that she was having her phase with a ~gaijin~!

(Anonymous) 2015-11-04 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Both the gaijin and the gay thing would've been shocking. If you go clubbing in Shinjuku Ni-chome, the gay district, you'll literally have people giving out fake names so they aren't accidentally outed.

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2015-11-04 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah but people will still write it off when people are younger. Once you start getting on to marrying age and you're still "playing" with same sex relationships ...that's when Japanese parents begin to lose their shit.

(Anonymous) 2015-11-04 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Herpy I know you've read some animes in your day, but

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2015-11-04 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
I lived in Japan for a year. I have indeed been to Shinjuku a lot! Used to hang out there on weekends, because of the half price nomihoudai haha.

(Anonymous) 2015-11-04 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
Herpy, that's not true!!

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2015-11-04 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
Oh no!! What's not true??!

(Anonymous) 2015-11-04 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt
That all Japanese parents are accepting of their kids having homosexual relationships! Especially beyond the 20's, some parents would be very concerned.
I think you'd be surprised by how nuanced Japanese people are when it comes to homosexuality, and how conservative some people can be about it.

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2015-11-04 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
Where did you get accepting from that?

I said that it tends to get interpreted as a "phase". That would make the attitude a dismissive one, not one of acceptance.

I'm beginning to think you're not interpreting my comments correctly here.

(Anonymous) 2015-11-04 04:07 am (UTC)(link)
I get what you mean. But beyond their 20s as a phase? The phase you're talking about is for schoolchildren. To me, if parents were dismissive of a homosexual relationship beyond their 20s instead of deeply stigmatized, that would be acceptance in a way.

(Anonymous) 2015-11-04 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
I lived three years in Japan and that was not really my experience. Yeah, if you are gay, they'll often think of it as a phase, or assume it means that you're transgender, but it's still not socially acceptable and parents still flip shit over it. Of course, even heterosexual people often don't bring partners home to their parents unless they're engaged so the issue doesn't much come up.

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2015-11-04 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
Like I said, it depends on age. The younger someone is, the less likely it is to be taken seriously. Teens and kids being romantic? Almost never even a concern. I taught kids and teens, and so I was frequently exposed to attitudes about homosexuality in young people. It was almost the norm to pretend homosexuality "doesn't exist" until a person is much older.

Once you start getting to older age groups, then yes, there would be some hell to pay if it got out that you were never going to marry and have a proper family, or that you were sneaking around doing "embarrassing" acts with older partners.

(Anonymous) 2015-11-04 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
I was a student for one year and a teacher for two, and I taught all age groups including a few college classes. You're right, they do pretend it doesn't exist, or if they talk about it, they often have enormous misconceptions. I heard "we don't have gay people in Japan" several times, as well as gay = transgender, or it's only a porn thing, etc.

But I can guarantee almost all parents would not react with a laugh and an assumption that it is "just a phase" if their kid brought home a same-sex partner. It's still viewed as shameful, even disgusting. What you're talking about is youth culture's attitudes toward homosexuality - which they have been more exposed to - NOT whether or not they would feel comfortable telling their parents they were gay, or living out as a gay person. I'm not saying everyone is homophobic in Japan but it's so rarely talked about openly that most gay people don't feel comfortable being out to their families. I knew a gay guy who was planning on having a wedding in Hawaii with his partner and still wasn't out to his parents.