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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-11-04 06:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #3227 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3227 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Mary McDonnell, Battlestar Galactica, Major Crimes]


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[Deadly Premonition]


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[The Walking Dead, Glenn Rhee]


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[Bill Skarsgård]


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08. http://i.imgur.com/LAq54d4.jpg
[link for random penis]









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kallanda_lee: (Default)

Re: Just leaving this here

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2015-11-05 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
Nah, not saying people aren't attracted to it. The obviously are. I just don't think an attraction to men equals an attraction to (performed) masculinity by definition, though there is obviously a large overlap.

Re: Just leaving this here

(Anonymous) 2015-11-05 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
The problem is that I think it simplifies the problem of masculinity in a false way if you simply pretend that this preference just, like, doesn't exist. The fact that a lot of people orient their lives around it and a lot of people like and are attracted to those things is why it's such an intractable thing.
kallanda_lee: (Default)

Re: Just leaving this here

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2015-11-05 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
I hope I'm understanding what you're saying right, but...I can't help but think that some of those preferences ARE cultural and taught, though.

Like, if we're talking about the physical aspect of it - muscles, certain patterns in body hair, being on average larger than women etc...I DO believe that those preferences are for a large part innate, because our ancestors selected for those (desirable) traits for centuries.

However it gets so much trickier when you throw things like behavior or dress into the mix. I think there's a lot of things we associate with "masculinity" or "femininity" that aren't really linked to it by definition, but are also attractive to people.

I hope that made sense.

Re: Just leaving this here

(Anonymous) 2015-11-05 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
No one is pretending that preference doesn't exist. You seem to have trouble parsing the phrase "not everyone."

Re: Just leaving this here

(Anonymous) 2015-11-05 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
I think the phrase is being used in a way that implies that more people fall into "not everyone" than actually do.

Re: Just leaving this here

(Anonymous) 2015-11-05 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
The fact that you keep arguing your point despite the fact that no one is disagreeing with you suggests you might have some sort of personal issue with this. I suggest you get over this instead of trying to argue with people who, again, are not actually disagreeing with you.

Re: Just leaving this here

(Anonymous) 2015-11-05 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
The fact that you keep arguing your point despite the fact that no one is disagreeing with you suggests you might have some sort of personal issue with this.

Probably.