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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-11-05 07:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #3228 ]


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ketita: (Default)

[personal profile] ketita 2015-11-06 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
This is probably my exhaustion speaking, but are you criticizing it? Pocahontas has its issues at the movie, but I always thought that line - and that entire song, really - was on point.
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[personal profile] sarillia 2015-11-06 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
Seems too on the nose to me. But it amuses me so that's still making me happy.
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[personal profile] ketita 2015-11-06 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
It's supposed to be an educational song for children about not being bigoted. I'm not surprised it's not very nuanced.
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[personal profile] ozaline 2015-11-06 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
The song was probably the best part of the movie, but that particular line was a bit hyperbolic, then considering how racist our world still is there's room for hyperbole.
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[personal profile] ketita 2015-11-06 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
It's supposed to be educational (anti-bigotry) and for children. Of course it's over-the-top?
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[personal profile] ozaline 2015-11-06 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
Sure, it's just that's so over-the-top it reaches around again... it even made the Nostalgia Chick do a double take

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjwMn_eO2jo#t=10m04s
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[personal profile] ketita 2015-11-06 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
...well I don't know that the Nostalgia Chick is my measure of anything, really.
I also wasn't really /defending/ Pocahontas as such, or even the lyrics - they're just imo really pretty and/or singable songs. Only topped by Be A Man, for me.
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[personal profile] ozaline 2015-11-06 05:17 am (UTC)(link)
Fair enough, I like the song that line just feels clunky, but kind of in a fun way.
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[personal profile] ketita 2015-11-06 04:42 am (UTC)(link)
I'll also add, I'm not super fond of the Nostalgia Chick overall. One of the few videos of hers I saw was Mulan, and I thought some of her criticisms were way off, as was the fact checking.
iirc she complained about Mulan going home in the end, but that part is actually 100% accurate to basically all versions of the original. Also the thing about footbinding... yes it's awful, but it also happened WAY after the Mulan story was set.
It didn't really make me want to see many more of her videos.
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[personal profile] ozaline 2015-11-06 05:22 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah the Mulan video had some issues I think her more recent stuff now that she's no longer the Nostalgia Chick are a lot better.

But I do agree with you that the criticism of her not accepting the Emperor's position is a little off, cause it assumes that there's only one way to be feminist, she doesn't have to want the job does she, if she would prefer to go home turning down an Emperor is still pretty impressive. Though she does accept the job in Kingdom Hearts II.

I think it's more the exact situation with the Emperor wasn't in the original account, so I can see her critiquing that, but I don't agree with the critique... I just thought that bit from the Pocahontas review was funny.