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⌈ Secret Post #3231 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I mean I definitely agree that there are lots of Star Wars fanboys who are terrible about these kinds of discussions. But I also don't think pretending that there's no such thing as a flaw in a movie is a useful response to that. I'm also kind of hungry so I might just be irritable rn sorry.

FWIW I do agree that the aesthetic issues with the prequel are overstated, and not mostly a result of CGI. To the extent that I dislike the way they look, I think it's more about the specific design aesthetic that they chose to go with, but as you say that's subjective.

But I genuinely don't understand how you can look at the plotting, the acting, and the dialogue and not say that there are real flaws there. Obviously the fact that something is flawed is no bar to liking it - I like plenty of things that are far more flawed than the SW prequels. Hell, I mean, the original SW movies are pretty deeply flawed. But, like, it's just that specific argument is so frustrating to me, where hey maybe there's just no such thing as a flaw so we don't even have to think about this.

[philstar22]

The dialogue, yes. The acting, yes. The plotting, though? What are you referring to? I think some things were rushed (like Anakin's turn which makes more sense in the novelization). But for the most part I think the plotting works pretty well.

[(Anonymous)]

You know what, I think I'm actually thinking only of Phantom Menace there, which I think is by far the worst of the series. Once you get past that there's a few silly things in 2 but it's really not so bad. But I think Phantom Menace's plot just does not work as a movie plot. I think the problem is that it's kind of two unrelated plots - the Naboo plot, which meanders and seriously lacks drive & motivation, and the Anakin/Tatooine stuff, which doesn't really have any natural connection with the Naboo plot which is the nominal point of the movie. And I get the reasons that drove Lucas to do it that way but it just does not work as a movie plot at all for me.

[(Anonymous)]

as a random anon opinion, I think if Lucas had treated the Phantom Menace plot like he'd treated the Empire Strikes Back plot, it would have been a much better movie. The Empire Strikes back threw you into one conflict after another. Whereas Phantom Menace never felt like there was a conflict due to Jedi ex machina. (Another opinion of mine is that Amidala is the real main character of the original trilogy and not Anakin. But, digression.)