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No, I know you didn't, it's just a pretty common sentiment in fandom - that the devs consider Warden!Alistair the wrong choice and are punishing the players who took it.

Most people I come across made Ali a King, either because they romanced him as a human (And could marry him and be Queen) or because they were bros with him and romanced someone else instead.

I mean... Technically, no, I get that having him possibly die because of your choices doesn't mean you made the wrong choice, but I understand why you would feel that way. Most of BioWare's fanbase likes their happy endings and go out of their way to get a “perfect" ending, so if a decision interferes with that, a decision you felt was a perfectly good and reasonable one, it feels bad.

Doesn't mean the developers think you were wrong, but it might feel that way because you had certain expectations and those expectations were sunk. It isn't entirely rational, but that's fandom.

I at least wish that scene wasn't a simple swap, though.

I find the way a lot of fans seem to either only accept him as king with a Cousland wife, or as a Warden for anyone else is a bit elitist. What is wrong with a non-Cousland female Warden being his mistress? Are people over-sensitive about that?

But then I was so tied to my pet-favourite race/class combo that I was not going to re-role a new character just to make her Ali's wife. I decided mistress worked fine for me and went after making that happen (and that was before I decided Elenaria was not just an expy of my Silmaril, thus destining the relationship to end anyway).

(FYI, I only romanced Ali with dwarves. I played other races, but none with him.)

I don't know about anyone else but I have chosen the mistress route (in the keep, never in-game), though only after seeing Ali or Hawke had to stay in The Fade if you left him a warden. I never left Ali a king at ALL before Inquisition though; I just don't care for him in the role. (Both because he didn't seem to want it, I thought being a warden was cooler anyway, I wanted us to 'stick together', and because I think Anora would be a better ruler. Even when he was simply my bro I left him as a warden.)

I'm not a fan of infidelity but I know you could convince Anora and Ali to marry for politics, so in the case that Anora knows and is fine with their relationship I don't see a problem. Still, I'm not fond of my warden and Ali having to sneak around to be together.

I don't think there's anything wrong with other people choosing it (personal preference and all that, everyone has one), but I prefer a route that allows them to stay side by side. (Even if, because this is BioWare, they are frequently separated.)

Yeah, I think my own view on it is at least partially attributable to my method of play - I effing love using walkthroughs for games and when I played DA:O I was always referring to the quest pages on the wiki for the best way to get through them. It was not just the individual quests either - I looked ahead into plot issues and saw the long-term things and decided quite a way ahead which I liked best plotwise, and setting up Alistair with Anora has the best result, epilogue-wise.

I don't know if I would have went the route of keeping the relationship if I was viewing Elenaria as being my RP character for real. I suppose I don't view the mistress idea all that badly due to a prosaic view of royalty and mistresses.

I effing love using walkthroughs for games and when I played DA:O I was always referring to the quest pages on the wiki for the best way to get through them.

Your 'first time through', or on subsequent playthroughs? My first time through I don't want to be spoiled for anything, so I wouldn't be looking at walkthroughs. After that though, sure!

But then again not everyone is as against spoilers as I am.

I suppose I don't view the mistress idea all that badly due to a prosaic view of royalty and mistresses.

I don't see it as a 'bad' option, it just isn't one I would choose for the majority of my characters. I can see why someone would pick it!

That was definitely my first time through. I am pretty spoiler-proof, and don't mind knowing in advance the basic plot of something. It can mitigate the effects of a shock in a plot, knowing it's coming.

The only time I tried to avoid spoilers was when the book of HBP came out, but I trouble getting into reading it and the online spoiler period wore out and I gave up. I stopped worrying about being spoiled after that.

My tendency to walkthroughs dates back to Baldur's Gate, where having a guide book actually got me to sit and play BG2, partly because it informed me of the romances.

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