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⌈ Secret Post #407 ⌋

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I just didn't like it when he took his anger out on Ron or Hermione when they didn't do anything.

Except for writing him all summer telling him they were "ever so busy", and implying they were actually working with the Order, and knowing what was going on. I always wondered why that was - how hard would it have been to tell him that they were as much in the dark as he was?

I'm not saying he didn't have points where the school hated him, but they always ended up making up at the end of the conflict.

Yes, because they hated or feared him for things that weren't true, and they eventually found out they'd been wrong. I just wanted to point put that he wasn't universally loved all the time, or even most of the time; at one point the entire wizarding world is turned against him, not just the school.

but it seems like people seemed to like him more or less

Well, why wouldn't they? he's rather nice to people who're nice to him, especially in the first books, before things have started to piss him off. He's a bit defensive (and I'd be too, growing up with the Dursleys), but never the first to be hostile.

and by the end of the series the entire world thought he was great.

Well... he sort of gave his life for them? Though he did get it back, haha. Defeating Voldemort would resonably make people happy with him though, I would think. It's not like they all personally like him, you'll notice - even in the end, the only ones to be close to him are Ron and Hermione.

I found him too perfect and it annoyed me.

This is funny, because I found him imperfect , and that appealed to me. XD

At first he never complained,

Sure he did. He's the most sarky bastard in the books, if you look at his interaction with the Dursleys or Snape. He confronts those he's angry with, but he doesn't go with complaints to other people (not even later - it is Ron and Hermione he's angry with), and that's probably because of his childhood. What good would ever come of complaining about things to the Dursleys? It's a learned behaviour, and one of the reasons people who claim that Harry is well-adjusted makes me seriously baffled.

Harry's just a person who doesn't like to talk about his problems, introverted and anti-social, but at the same time passionate and impulsive. He's a "show, don't tell" type, so to speak, heh.

Okay, this has gotten to be too intricate an argument for me to care anymore. Sorry. Bottom line is: I don't like Harry, and I don't care if you do. Go ahead and point out all the ways he's great, but he still annoys the fire out of me. It's gotten far too late to change that now.

Hey, feel free to dislike him; I just wanted to point out things in canon that tells us things about his character.

I haven't once pointed out how he's supposedly great (in fact, I've made a point of mentioning his weak sides several times) - just how other characters in the books have reacted to him at different times, and how he has reacted to things. Since, you know, I like to have my opinions about things supported by actual facts.

True, but I was just shortening what I had to say. My history class was beginning to fill up while I was answering my emails. XD

By all means, don't think I'm trying to say that the facts are on my side. I know we're all supposed to love Harry and think he's spectacular. I just don't. I'm used to being the type that gets bored of main characters, though...I tend to find supporting/background characters more entertaining.

I know we're all supposed to love Harry and think he's spectacular.

Argh, sorry for being so late, and unecessarily continuing the tread, but I just had to comment on this. This is where so many readers get it wrong. No, we're NOT supposed to love Harry and think he's spectacular, that's the whole point! He's supposed to be a pretty dark, imperfect character, who nevertheless manages to have his heart in the right place; why do you think Rowling placed all those parallels to Snape and Riddle in the books? Even in the part including James, it's Snape Harry is compared to.

I liked him more because of his flaws than anything else.

I had meant 'spectacular' to be really more of a sarcastic term, but everyone IS supposed to like Harry and be on his side and care most about what happens to him, but I didn't think he had enough flaws to be considered, really. I know they're there, but the fact that he'd never done anything truly wrong made him a bit unbelivable, in my opinion. I mean, sure, he had a bit of an attitude every once in a while and he'd go around Ron's and Hermione's backs to do something they told him not to, but that was about as bad as it got, and the fact that everything always worked out in the end kind of fustrated me.

Er, his only living relation of sorts died because of him? Also, how wrong would it have to be? He does manipulate and insult the Dursleys from the start, he pretty much ignores any rules that doesn't suit him, and steals from teachers. Sometimes he's caught and recieves detention (or worse), sometimes he's not.

It sort of works out in the end, but a lot of people died, including himself. Though he managed to return, heh. Getting away with rule-breaking and pranks in school... that's what school is all about, isn't it? He was hardly the only one! People take those things way too seriously (ironically, the Slytherfen -not the sane Slytherin fans, mind - are most vehement about things being unfair; it's hilarious).

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