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⌈ Secret Post #3238 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Great Article on Daesh

[(Anonymous)]

What? No, they are not. The Quran contradicts itself enormously, too. But it flat out says that conversion can not be done at the sword. It flat out condemns murder, especially of the elderly, children, and women. These people have ONLY chosen to follow the most violent passages, and are ignoring the passages that condemn everything they do. They pick and choose as much as anyone.

ISIS is a terror cult more than it is conservative religion. Their motives are not exclusively religion, but also resistance against the movements of the West - they often claim that their strikes are revenge for certain attacks that Western forces have committed on their territories. Not that religion isn't a great cult tool for firing people up and getting them to risk or sacrifice their lives. But even the most conservative Muslim is not going to suicide bomb people. These are classic cult tactics.

+1

[feotakahari]

I'm not an expert on Islam, but I do know that the Koran calls for freeing slaves, and that ISIS keeps slaves. I'm a bit skeptical that they're following the Koran closely.

Re: +1

[ill_omened]

Oh so the following verses are taken out of context?

Qur'an (33:50)

Qur'an (23:5-6)

Qur'an (4:24)

Qur'an (8:69)

Qur'an (24:32)

Qur'an (2:178)

Qur'an (16:75)

Re: +1

[(Anonymous)]

do you take the content of sentence as a whole or do you even understand the contents of quaran at all?

Re: +1

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, it's almost like, the Koran contradicts itself! Which is, shockingly enough, the topic at hand.

The Bible is also pro-slavery, btw.

Re: Great Article on Daesh

[ill_omened]

Not even slightly to the extent that the Bible does, but I'm not particularly interested into getting into a game of 'but this tiny verse I've wildly taken out of context if you side eye it looks like it supports gome stuff and is against bad stuff tm'.

And talking about ISIS as a cult doesn't quite fit. Which model are you using to make that judgement? It doesn't operate in a way even the largest cults like Jonestown did. It's too decentralised and lacking in central figures. And that there are other motivators doesn't mean that religious belief isn't a huge motivating factor.

Re: Great Article on Daesh

[feotakahari]

You're not interested in getting into a game of "this verse supports good stuff and not bad stuff," but you just played "this verse supports bad stuff and not good stuff"? Interpreting verses either matters or doesn't. (Honestly, I lean towards "it doesn't matter what a holy text actually says," but I was going with "it does matter" since I thought that's what you were going with.)

Re: Great Article on Daesh

[(Anonymous)]

+10000

Thank you. I honestly don't have the energy to talk any more about this whole mess of issues for a while, but I think you made some really good points here.

Re: Great Article on Daesh

[(Anonymous)]

"And talking about ISIS as a cult doesn't quite fit."

lets just say they make these a quite revelation. on different side.

SA

[(Anonymous)]

and the eye of madness....