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⌈ Secret Post #3243 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

DA

Are you denying that people who have mental health issues can stress their support network of family and friends most of who aren't professionally trained nor necessarily have the set of coping skills needed?

I heard a story once, way back, and it was posted publicly to LJ or DW, I forget which.

(Warning: somewhat long writeup follows, potential triggers possible)

This lady, when she was younger, her sister had some severe psychological issues from being abused (not going into details here). She would have absolute *screaming fits* every time she needed to be hospitalized (which was, I gather, unfortunately somewhat regular), and she withdrew to the point of only watching a VHS tape of The Wizard of Oz. Repeatedly, every day she was at home.

In short all this was rather stressful on all parties involved.

Well, one day the VHS tape finally broke and the movie froze up. And her sister went batshit fucking NUTS.

The lady in question confessed that her first emotion was an incredibly satisfying feeling of utter blissful Schadenfreude at knowing her sister wouldn't be hogging the TV set anymore.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not saying mentally disabled people can't be stressful. I'm saying that people shouldn't expect someone to be "fixed" because they can be a strain.

People in general can be a strain. My younger sister is incredibly OCD about germs and shrieking at people for spreading them sometimes or lecturing people about wanting their hands. It puts a strain on us at times, but that doesn't mean I think my sister should be "fixed".

I had family friend whose kid was just an over energetic brat it caused a strain on the family and their patience, but that still doesn't mean the brother needs to go get lobotmized so he can be "tolerable".

People are still people even when they're difficult. I'm not comfortable with the idea of suggesting that people should just get cured of everything about them that might cause others stress. People should be treated like human beings and not objects.

[(Anonymous)]

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The over-energetic brat of a kid is a bad example. Because that very much should be cured/fixed. And it doesn't need a lobotomy to do so. If a child has no underlying issues, there is no reason that proper parenting can't keep them from becoming a brat. If the child is a brat, then there is something wrong and it should be dealt with. As a teacher I am so fucking tired of all of the entitled brats that come through my classroom and all of the "boys will be boys" and "she's just so smart and special that she is bored" and other awful excuses that are given instead of people actually parenting their kids.

[(Anonymous)]

Alright

Well in just the same way, a person with a mild or manageable autistic spectrum disorder doesn't necessarily need to get rid of the autism or be cured of it in order to be dealt with.

I've met plenty of higher functioning people who are capable of living independently and communicating properly, are pretty successful in their jobs.

My point was about dealing with aspects of a person that might cause "strain" and over excessive approaches to dealing with that. There are many people on the autistic spectrum that deal and function in different ways and not every case is the kind of dramatic cases you see and hear about.

There are approaches to dealing with the "strain" in some other way than "fix their brain"/cure them.

And before you say that a cure to autism isn't the same as a lobotomy, how much do you know about how autism actually works? What parts of the brain it affects? What do you think it would take to completely rid the brain of autism?

I say this because a lot of proponent of a cure like to act like a cure would be as simple as a pill and as easily gotten rid of as a troublesome file on the computer. It's not that way at all.

[(Anonymous)]

"I've met plenty of higher functioning people who are capable of living independently and communicating properly, are pretty successful in their jobs."

Sure, and they're not the problem. The problem is the people who can't live alone, can't work and rely entire on their parents to fund their life. If the parents are rich and can provide for them then no problem, they do what they want. But the others? the parents/carers who are putting their life on hold to pay & care for them can definitely say "either get out and learn to live by yourself the way you are or get the cure and get out and learn to live by yourself".

Also, as sad as it is to say, their parents will, in all likelyhood, die before them. And then what? Who will be forced to look after them then? Their siblings? cousins? Basically, their counting on people's basic human decency to not leave them on the street because they're family no matter the financial, physical and mental strain they cause. And yes, that "entire world owes me" attitude is definitely selfish.

Same thing goes for the prosthesis situation you're so enamored of. If they can live independently without a prosthetic, then more power to them. If not getting a prosthetic means becoming entirely reliant on someone then they're selfish assholes.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, but when the mainstream idea of "tolerable" and "not stressing support networks" is "being exactly like me and completely neurotypical because no difference is allowed except cute and quirky things because I never once considered if I would be equipped to deal with anything other than a single straight, cis, neurotypical child" and the main stressor is that, oh, boo fucking hoo you can't watch TV? The problem isn't them.

The problem is that you can't handle a family member being anything other than straight, cis and neurotypical.

I mean, you never see people being complained about when they're a stress on their environs if they're cis, straight, etc. It's always, "Yeah, your family/friends are kind of shitty, you just need someone who understands you and is patient enough to be your support network!"

[(Anonymous)]

Wrong. In pretty much all that you say. But hey, carry on assuming everyone is against you.