[ SECRET POST #3243 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3243 ⌋

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

In the context of the topic at hand, autism,

Autism is a developmental disorder of the brain. It has affected your brain as the brain developed. There is unlikely to be any coverall cure for autism that completely gets rid of all of it. Without significantly rearranging the brain.

There is no witch to flip. It's not simple. And even if it works it would probably leave behind other or more damaging side effects.

Surprise surprise some people aren't comfortable with entirely changing their brain.

If we're talking about THAT cure , then are you seriously suggesting that because someone chooses not to go through with is practically a lobotomy then they should get no sympathy when their condition causes problems?

That's frankly ridiculous.

Now if we're talking about therapy that's a different story. But therapy =/= cure.

[(Anonymous)]

Look, I understand there is no cure for autism but the OP is discussing a hypothetical situation and that is the context for my comments as well.

[(Anonymous)]

Even with a hypothetical situation, it's important to realize that considering how autism works and just how much of your brain, senses and thinking process it affects, there is still very good reason for autistic people not wanting a cure.

And if they can communicate and , understand, and give consent and live independently, they have every right in the world to refuse it.

I mean hell considering sensory issues are a part of it, getting a cure would require adjustment and depending on how old the person is may cause a huge freakout afterward. In adults anyway. Adults have already adjusted to their "settings" if you will. Nearly everything in their brain from they process they think in (in patterns and routines) to their social knowledge, to their senses would be changing.

Giving the cure to a child who has not yet finished developing would be no big deal but giving it to an adult who already has, that comes with a lot of complexity and ethical issues.

It's incredibly unrealistic to think just giving the cure would get rid of all the strain the adult autistic is 'causing" and not replace it with another kind of strain as their brain tries to adjust.

Does nobody else think about these things?

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt - I cannot figure out if you realize you're moving the goalposts of the argument in every new comment you make or if you genuinely do not understand why hypothetical means.

Basically, let's say a group of friends are sitting around talking about what it'd be like if unicorns really existed and whether or not they'd want one as a pet if they existed. (Which they don't, but hey! Hypothetical situation!) You're the person who tries to dominate the conversation by explaining what a biological impossibility unicorns are re: equine bone structure. Your friends try to explain that yeah, they know unicorns don't really exist, but for the sake of discussion, let's pretend they do and proceed from there. In response, you continue talking about biological impossibilities, the lack of fossil evidence for unicorns and you're super confused about why nobody else is seeing things your way.

[(Anonymous)]

How are they "moving the goalposts" ?

You're talking about a "hypothetical cure" and they're talking about what effect it would have on the mind of the person if you "cured" them as an adult.

[(Anonymous)]

Does "hypothetical" mean it has to be idealized and perfect?

[(Anonymous)]

No. But it does mean that when people are discussing how a particular situation would play out given hypothetical "rules" (i.e. the existence of unicorns as a given) then it's rude and pedantic to keep butting in on the conversation by insisting that other people can't discuss unicorns because unicorns don't exist. It is a basic failure to grasp what hypothetical situations are and how they're being used, and also a failure in manners.

[(Anonymous)]

No, it's only you because you are the only perceptive, wise and far seeing person here.

Happy now?

*sigh*

[(Anonymous)]

But the context isn't "autism as it is exists in real life". The context is "an AU where there is a cure for autism". Per the secret. This is obviously a hot button issue for you, but fortunately, you'd be a lot less upset if you understood the difference between what you think the discussion is about and what the discussion is actually about, because they are two separate things.