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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-12-02 06:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #3255 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3255 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Paul Walker, Fast and Furious movies]


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03.
[Inuyasha]


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04.
[Z Nation]


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05.
[Hugh Dancy (and Claire Danes)]


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06.
[Jessica Jones]


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07.
[The Oatmeal]


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08.
[Star Wars: The Old Republic]


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09.
[Harry Potter]










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Re: "Brownie points" femslash.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-03 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
I have to admit that this made me laugh, but I can sort of see where people are coming from.

If you go on AO3, hit the f/f tab, and sort by kudos, you're going to find that pretty much all the top fics are m/m slash fics that have a small femslash pairing tagged because it gets a few sentences of mention in a novel-length fic. From what I've seen, a lot of times this femslash pairing really does not need to be included, and I feel like the author is just doing it so they don't seem like they're demonizing the female characters or something.

In fact, this is such a problem that someone actually made a post showing people HOW to remove m/m and m/f fics when searching for purely femslash fics: http://mariannevibritannia.tumblr.com/post/101396459369/hey-ive-seen-some-people-complain-that-its-hard.

I definitely think a lot of women definitely do enjoy femslash or certain pairings wouldn't get the amount of art and fic they do, but I definitely feel like there are people who include f/f in their predominately m/m fics as a form of lip service.

Re: "Brownie points" femslash.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-03 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks so much for that link. I am so tired of looking for something and finding out that it is just a mention in one of the juggernaut pairing's fics. (I should have thought about trying that trick / search but never did.)

Re: "Brownie points" femslash.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-03 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not disagreeing, but I also don't know how relevant that is if you're talking about femslash fandom. If we're talking about femslash fandom, we should be talking about the fics that are just femslash.

It's true that there are m/m fics that include nominal femslash content. And it's true that those fics are much more popular than femslash fics - m/m is ridiculously, ridiculously more popular numerically than femslash, on ao3 and elsewhere in fandom.

But it seems really unfair to say that femslash fandoms only exist for brownie points, on the basis of things that people are doing in m/m fics. That seems really fucking backwards.

Re: "Brownie points" femslash.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-03 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
god i hate that. it makes it so hard to find my femslash pairing in their own story.

i try the removing the m/m pairing form the sorting but it doesn't always work right. drives me bonkers.

Re: "Brownie points" femslash.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-03 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
It should work more consistently if you use the tag IDs (22 for het, 23 for slash). So that'll be '-filter_ids:23 -filter_ids:22' in the search within results field.

(For the record, I found this out through manually testing the first 30 or so tag IDs - those IDs aren't listed anywhere) (9 through 13 are ratings, 14 through 20 are warnings, 21 through 24 are categories)
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Re: "Brownie points" femslash.

[personal profile] caerbannog 2015-12-03 09:48 am (UTC)(link)
idk if it's for brownie points, i always saw this more as the default "everyone must be paired off" with a side of "all the men are in m/m so by default the token female characters get shipped together as f/f to tie it all up nice and neat".

Definitely lipservice, but not intentionally for brownie points...although i do wish people wouldn't tag side character ships in AO3, filtering through is so annoying.