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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-12-04 06:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #3257 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3257 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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03. [SPOILERS for Downton Abbey Season 6]



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04. [SPOILERS for Mockingjay Part 2]



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05. [SPOILERS for Undertale]



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06. [WARNING for rape]



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08. [WARNING for child abuse]

[King Lear]


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09. [WARNING for abuse]

[Tales From the Borderlands]


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10. [WARNING for abuse, PTSD]

[Jessica Jones]









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(Anonymous) 2015-12-05 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
Him asking Alphys to do the experiments on the monsters. I can see him asking that with childlike innocence fully believing it'll work and won't hurt anyone and it'll be good for everyone in the end and so it'll all be rainbows eventually.

Agreed about Toriel. An adult her age with experience of being a queen should know this shit. Everyone was a little bit stupid in many unexpected ways, honestly. It threw me out of the game a lot.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-05 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, see, I didn't think he asked that out of foolishness, but rather out of "what haven't we tried? Let's try that next" and grief, but I can see how you got to that conclusion.

I think the main issue is that Asgore and Toriel got mired in grief, and acted in ways that weren't super great, which was why it didn't bug me as much? But I can see why it would bug you, if that's how you interpreted it. (Not sarcasm).

(Anonymous) 2015-12-05 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
I would buy that the foolishness was delusion or denial brought on by grief.

I would buy the grief reason overall for everyone, if the game had started after the first or second child.

Continuing the whole thing six different times... nah

(Anonymous) 2015-12-05 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I figured that, for Asgore, he kept doing it because his people were looking to him, and had hope for the first time in a really long time. Though, Toriel still just bugs me. Maybe it's because the NPC called her "Mom" (and flirted with her, lol).

(Unless you meant the experiments? But I don't think that those happened once after each child).

I do wonder how their lifespans fit into it. After all, it's implied that Toriel and Asgore are going to live basically forever, and have already been living a very long time, since they're boss monsters, and no longer have a child to give energy to. If you live that long, maybe the years it took for the first six children to show up were just a blip on the radar?

DA

(Anonymous) 2015-12-05 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
i read something interesting about this once - can't find it now. but, basically, it said that to monsters, science is a bit like magic to us. that's why asgore believed in it so much. it explained it much smarter than i did, of course haha. i think it was a pretty cool interpretation, giving more sense to asgore's behaviour.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2015-12-05 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah. Determination was like mysterious human magic to them, so that's similar to how I interpreted it.