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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-12-06 03:28 pm

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Re: Opinions people judge you for

(Anonymous) 2015-12-06 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't believe for a second that you actually have Muslim, Jewish, or Hindu friends.

Also, atheists don't count. Most of them are former Christians and are thus culturally Christian.
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Re: Opinions people judge you for

[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-12-06 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
My best friend of 16+ years is Jewish. What garbage is that that you assume an American anon on here doesn't have any friends that aren't Christian or atheist? You can't actually be serious. I know you don't really believe this.

Re: Opinions people judge you for

(Anonymous) 2015-12-06 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
LMAO. You're either not American or you live in Nowheresville, Midwest and think the whole rest of the country is the same and I feel sorry for you.

Re: Opinions people judge you for

(Anonymous) 2015-12-06 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, no, most of my atheist friends are second or third generation immigrants whose families are from predominantly atheist/nonreligious countries.
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Re: Opinions people judge you for

[personal profile] meredith44 2015-12-06 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm a teacher in a fairly diverse community. This year, the three Jewish children, the Punjabi child, and one of the Chinese children (other children might have, but I didn't hear about it) all celebrated Thanksgiving this year. In previous years, children of other religions and cultures who were in my class also celebrated it. It is an American holiday, not a Christian one.

Re: Opinions people judge you for

(Anonymous) 2015-12-07 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
1. The more you say, the more convinced I become that you're actually just a troll.

2. If you're truly a Canadian, you're not anything like 99% of the Canadian's I've ever met. Which is a lot of them considering I am one.

Re: Opinions people judge you for

(Anonymous) 2015-12-07 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not the anon who's claiming to be Canadian. Amazingly, it is possible for two different anons to share an opinion.

Re: Opinions people judge you for

(Anonymous) 2015-12-07 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
Oh thank god. I was worried I was actually sharing a country with you.

Re: Opinions people judge you for

(Anonymous) 2015-12-07 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
Hi, I'm the Canadian anon. Most of my friends are Jewish or Hindu, and none of them celebrate Thanksgiving. The only people I know who celebrate Thanksgiving are Christians. Like I said to another anon in this thread, it could be a regional thing.

Obviously I don't know about the holiday-related habits of EVERY SINGLE PERSON in Canada, so yeah, it was dumb of me to make a generalization like that in my original comment. I can only speak from my own experience, and in my experience, non-Christians don't celebrate Thanksgiving.

Re: Opinions people judge you for

(Anonymous) 2015-12-07 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
So Thanksgiving's a Christian holiday in Canada? I didn't know that, but OK. Regardless, someone here (I'm not keeping track of who's the same anon who said what anymore) said it was a Christian "United Statesian" (ugh) holiday, and that's wrong. It's not a Christian holiday in America.

Re: Opinions people judge you for

(Anonymous) 2015-12-07 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
I agree that most people of other religions - particularly ones who immigrated here, as opposed to being born here - seem unlikely to celebrate our North American holidays. I just don't agree that it's because those holidays are Christian holidays. In some cases, when the holiday is actually a religious one (unlike Thanksgiving), religion can certainly play a part, but I don't think it's the only reason and for many non-celebrators I don't even think it's the main reason they don't celebrate.

I think the people who don't celebrate these holidays don't celebrate them mainly because they have no personal history with celebrating them. It's not that the holiday doesn't mean anything to them on a religious level; it's that the holiday doesn't mean anything to them on a personal level. Take Christmas for example. A person who never celebrated Christmas growing up doesn't have childhood memories of helping put up Christmas lights, and decorate a Christmas tree, and wrapping presents in Christmas colored paper and struggling with the tape, and peeling the backing off a brand new bow, and seeing presents pile up under the tree, and looking at all the tags to see which presents were for them, and helping make Christmas baking, and begging their mothers for a candy cane off the tree, and all those completely secular things that go into making up the tradition of Christmas.

None of those things - those secular traditions - have personal meaning to people who never celebrated Christmas growing up, and so they don't have the same draw. It doesn't take religion to move people. Nostalgia and memory and habit and repetition are immensely powerful motivators.
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Re: Opinions people judge you for

[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-12-07 08:00 pm (UTC)(link)
This is a really good comment.

(And you're making me wish I had my Christmas tree up!)

Re: Opinions people judge you for

(Anonymous) 2015-12-07 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
fuck off biblethumper.