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⌈ Secret Post #3261 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Things you hate to see in published fiction

[philstar22]

I agree with you. It is especially bad when the POV character is female and straight. Women generally don't talk about breasts, either their own or other women's, like that.

Also 1st Person. It just doesn't work for me. Ever.

Re: Things you hate to see in published fiction

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, not so much. Even men don't do it all the time.

I think Sue Grafton once called a supporting character "top-heavy;" which I thought was brilliant, and I started using where it fit.

SA

[(Anonymous)]

Agreeing with your first paragraph, I mean.

I actually like 1st person....

Re: Things you hate to see in published fiction

[(Anonymous)]

I think women do talk about breasts, in my experience, and why shouldn't they? Their complete and utter importance as sex symbols has been crammed down our throats since we've been small. I think it's not atypical for most women, every once in a while, to think about their breasts or discuss them with female friends.

Of course, writing about that kind of conversation can easily go into male fantasy land, and feel awkward and not genuine.

Re: Things you hate to see in published fiction

[(Anonymous)]

I discuss breasts with my female friends if it's a medical issue, or if we're talking about bras or something that makes sense. But when I describe my friend to someone who doesn't know her, I absolutely not say, "My friend Amanda, the tall, slim blond with full breasts" because damn, that's creepy. I sound like I'm trying to sell her to a sex trafficker.

Re: Things you hate to see in published fiction

[(Anonymous)]

Plus, we usually grow up criticizing and comparing ours to other people's--unless women of today are too self-confident for that.

Re: Things you hate to see in published fiction

[(Anonymous)]

I get so paranoid when people say this. Granted, I'm not straight and I don't talk about breasts out loud of course, but nothing seems out of place to me about an internal narrative that includes breasts when it describes a character's appearance.

Re: Things you hate to see in published fiction

[(Anonymous)]

Truly? Imagine you were trying to describe a woman you know to someone else. What traits would you mention? Height, hair/eye color, build, what she's wearing... and then ask yourself how much time you'd spend describing that woman's rack to a total stranger.

Re: Things you hate to see in published fiction

[(Anonymous)]

Well, no, I said I wouldn't do it out loud. But except in special cases, first person POV isn't the same as a conversation you'd have out loud. Narrators share all kinds of thoughts you wouldn't say to someone else. It's supposed to be their honest inner monologue, whatever's running through their head.