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I have lots of scientific reasons to not like psychometric tests enough as it is, but it annoys me so much when 1. people take those tests out of context and put so much faith into them they insist on telling the world about their identity in them (*cough*MBTI*cough*) and 2. people make up those super lame quizzes like 'what does your favourite flower say about you?? xD :333' and so on, especially when people start taking them seriously.

I know it doesn't actually harm anyone when people do this for the most part and it's all for fun but it's such a pet peeve of mine. And Tumblr is a huge offender of both kinds.

I like to point out that the Meyers Briggs test was developed by a bored housewife and has no backing from the APA. But I'm an asshole like that.

I nearly slid out of my chair and started crying when my lecturer explained how unscientific the MBTI is. I did let out a bit of a sob when she said the course you can take that teaches you how to interpret the MBTI costs a couple of thousand pounds. I mean, keeping psychometric tests tightly regulated is one thing, but by the time you're charging people £80 each just to take the test itself, you're just plain commercialising.

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?!?! DDD:

That's interesting. I personally found it really helpful in understanding my own personality, but I'm not one to say that anyone else has to find it helpful or try to force it on people.

I love taking those kinds of tests...but only for fun. It's silly to use the results to make big decisions about your life IMO

Someone I knew once mentioned that MBTI descriptions reminded them of astrological signs, and I'm inclined to agree. The fact that some of my mutuals are REALLY into both further enforces the MBTI/astrology connection in my mind.

I tend to think of most psychometric tests that assign a personality type as being like astrology tbh. I respect the work of people like Cattell and Eysenck, but a single glance can tell you quite a lot of things that are wrong with their personality tests.

Although speaking of astrology, what is with Tumblr's obsession with them? I always see posts like assigning a Pokemon type to each zodiac sign or stuff like that and I can almost never tell if they're being serious or if they're just joking.

I have no idea what's up with the astrology posts on tumblr, but most of the ones I've seen are just joking around. Occasionally, I'll come across serious ones and I just roll my eyes at how full of shit they are (like this.)

That seems to be trying particularly hard to be deep.

oh ya, the fandom shitpost horoscopes are hilarious.

Yeah, most of them are joking. I mean, if anyone takes what kind of onion you are, based on your sign, seriously, they have a problem, you know?

I think we're almost at the point - at least in smarky, Internet circles - where it's going to be more controversial to defend the MBTI than to attack it.

And, for the record, I actually would like to kind of defend it. I agree that it is very deeply flawed, and I agree that people put far too much weight into it. But I think that it is basically talking about things that actually exist. It's shitty at measuring them, and the way that it conceptually understands them is probably pretty shitty as well. But the various categories that make up the MBTI are actually-existing components of personality, and MBTI is therefore a level above something like astrology, which is truly meaningless and arbitrary.

I don't see any point in analyzing something like favourite flowers if the person being analyzed doesn't know anything about flower symbolism. One can like a flower for lots of reasons without them including some arbitrary meaning they don't know about.

This same issue can apply to a lot of things - people can say the colour red has a meaning, but if you like red just because you like red, then you just like red.

Maybe that's why I dislike quizes. Too many are full of stupid questions like that. I like quizes that decide things on more concrete behavioural factors - like a D&D alignment quiz that decides based on questions about "What would you do if you...?" and had alignment-specific answers.

I just get annoyed at people really into MBTI because they act like everyone has memorized everything the way they have and they can throw out some letters and I know what that means and also like they have some sort of expectations of how other people will trear them, like a four letter score covers everything and is so much more superior than just sounding each other out like normal people.

That's just dumb. There are literally 16 categories in MBTI. The range of human personality is SO much more varied and nuanced than that.

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