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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-12-14 06:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #3267 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3267 ⌋

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Re: Interesting Writing Group discussion

(Anonymous) 2015-12-15 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
A, possibly.
B, no, because in needing other people's help assuming they have to ask for help and make an effort to change the world.

But then, my criteria for Mary Sue is whether or not the world automatically shapes itself around the character. A character could be the most amazing brilliant person, but if the world isn't automatically warping itself to make them win all the time and they have to actually put in all the effort to overcome, then that's not a Mary Sue, that's just a success story. Lots of brilliant people make huge efforts and succeed at unreasonable things all the time in real life.

Re: Interesting Writing Group discussion

(Anonymous) 2015-12-15 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
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To add to that, a Mary Sue always outshines the world and story. The world becomes about the Sue and exists to support the character of the Sue by warping itself around them rather than the opposite, which would be a character moving around a world that would exist regardless of it and having a story that happens to take place in a larger setting