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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-12-14 06:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #3267 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3267 ⌋

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[personal profile] sachiko_san 2015-12-15 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
If you can completely mimic a style by freedrawing it, it's not cutting and pasting. Like at all.

There are still certain jobs where mimicking the original style is wanted and important, like storyboarding for example. The boards are typically sent overseas and used as keys for the actual animation. And guess what? Cutting and pasting are not required, but knowing your anatomy is because while board artists use reference, it's from official model sheets detailing how to draw the style correctly and do's and don't's of the style.

You are likely referring to people who trace or eyeball things. Back when I was into Yugioh, one of the more popular doujinshi groups emulated the style really well and the things they drew were nothing they could copy from the source material.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-15 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
Storyboard artists have to have other talent along with that though, that was my point. They work off of a base model, but they certainly have to have the talent to back it up. Not to mention most artists don't start mimicking styles like that until they've completely got the basics down.

Many of these artists do not.

RE: Doujinshi, copying the canon style is frowned upon in doujinshi circles as well. It's why you'll generally see a ton of artists with their own unique styles, generally a style that is very different from the source material. Even the ones who like to skirt the line generally have something that makes their stuff unique.

[personal profile] sachiko_san 2015-12-15 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
Usually when it comes to this issue, I don't include people who trace or eyeball because it's obvious they aren't going anywhere doing that anytime soon and it seems other people agree with me that no one is including anyone who does that.

I'm not Japanese and I don't know what doujinshi authors/artists think about the issue, I am just retelling my experience.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-15 03:56 am (UTC)(link)
"RE: Doujinshi, copying the canon style is frowned upon in doujinshi circles as well."

I didn't know that. Well, that explains a lot, and why I find doujinshi generally wrong-looking and unsatisfying even when it's clear the artist has talent.

In western fandoms, I'd say as a general rule of thumb that being able to copy the original style would be seen as a big plus.

Perhaps the OP of this secret is more familiar with the doujinshi way of doing things, and so becomes annoyed when they come up across the other, and probably more common, viewpoint.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-15 06:29 am (UTC)(link)
"RE: Doujinshi, copying the canon style is frowned upon in doujinshi circles as well."

Eh, I would argue that. In one of my fandoms there is a doujinshi artist who is incredibly popular for her amazingly on-model art of the characters. She even ended up getting hired to do illustrations for some of the official novels because of it.
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[personal profile] ketita 2015-12-15 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
are you talking about the doujinka who did The Queens of Kabukicho and those

[personal profile] sachiko_san 2015-12-15 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
Yes. I actually own a doujin from the same group, Route 666. I was a huge Malik fan lol.
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[personal profile] ketita 2015-12-15 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
I still am a huge Malik fan, and I read that doujin too. omg this is a blast from the past XDDDD even if nowadays I no longer really express my love of him in any significant way.
Those doujins are hella good looking.

[personal profile] sachiko_san 2015-12-16 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
I moved on from it, but I can't hate Pegasus.

They were, I thought they had the best art and I was kinda obsessed with reading them all.