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Re: Representation, Recognition and nothing at all

[(Anonymous)]

Gay person here, too, and I agree! I mean, it never seemed POSSIBLE to have gay characters - you'd see them occasionally, but they were rare and often stereotypes (but even that was generally cool because wow, canon gay). And queerbaiting (didn't call it that at the time) and intentional homoeroticism seemed amazing.

I still think there's a very thin line between queerbaiting and homoerotic subtext, but I'm to the point where it's definitely frustrating to have what seems like homoeroticism, only to have the characters' straightness shoved down my throat at a later point - and even denial of them being gay, eliminating the chance for entertaining a possible bisexual moment. I still like gay subtext when the characters don't have opposite-sex love interests, but it's kind of to the point now where I want equal opportunity for gay canon to be the end game. And rather than just delight in the tiny maybe-gay moments, I'd like a real chance at love stories turning out gay and making it canon (without the characters being coded as "gay" from the very beginning, and preferably with the main character). I think we're starting to see that, but it's still pretty rare.

Re: Representation, Recognition and nothing at all

[(Anonymous)]

Didn't that pretty much happen on Southland? Not that one show makes up for a lifetime of nothing, but still.

Re: Representation, Recognition and nothing at all

[(Anonymous)]

I'd like a real chance at love stories turning out gay and making it canon (without the characters being coded as "gay" from the very beginning, and preferably with the main character).

That's what I want, and posted a thread about it several months ago, and pretty much everyone that posted in the thread agreed that it would never happen, which I found depressing.

Can I ask what you're starting to see it in? It sounds like I might've missed some interesting stuff and I need to check it out!

Re: Representation, Recognition and nothing at all

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

Well, I was thinking of Korra, though they weren't allowed to kiss or anything and a desperate person could've maybe read them as "good friends" - but still, mainstream kids' show. I don't think it's even typical to have established gay characters as protagonists, let alone ones whose sexuality is later revealed to be gay (except on like, Ellen's show I suppose!). I'd love to see more of that, or more bi characters as protagonists.

Re: Representation, Recognition and nothing at all

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

Ah, that explains it.

I don't think it's even typical to have established gay characters as protagonists, let alone ones whose sexuality is later revealed to be gay

In the thread I mentioned before, people were saying that there was no way characters would be revealed to be gay later on, after the audience already knew them and assumed they were straight, but I feel like...that'd be kind of a cool way to do it because that's the way it happens in reality. People assume their family member or friend is straight until they come out to them and then they (ideally) eventually realize that it doesn't change who the person is and they accept it. Studies have shown that actually knowing gay people is a huge factor in making people more accepting, and on popular shows where people watch it every week for x amount of years and feel like the characters are part of their family, it'd kind of be like their uncle came out or something. Idk, I'm probably not explaining it well but I feel like that'd be a better way to do it than where all characters must be stated to be gay from the very beginning so people can just put them in the gay box and not have to be surprised when someone they love turns out to be gay.

Re: Representation, Recognition and nothing at all

[(Anonymous)]

Southland revealed a very butch cop as gay in a later season. Brothers and Sisters made a character who was maybe coded a little gay but demonstrated as straight actually deeply closeted around midseries.

Re: Representation, Recognition and nothing at all

[(Anonymous)]

when I read "bisexual moment" I remembered how much I loved that in The Whole Nine Yards II they actually pulled it off so the two leading males hooked up (when they weredrunk). It was simply the logical consequence to all the homoeroticism going on for 1 1/2 movies.