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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-12-15 06:39 pm

[ SECRET POST #3268 ]


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[Murcielago]


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Stealing (and question for people who work in retail)

(Anonymous) 2015-12-16 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
When I was younger I shoplifted occasionally. First small produce items from the grocery store because I couldn't figure out how to ring it up on the self checkout machine. Then later, small items like chapstick, lip gloss, candy, and nail polish. Nothing that cost more than a few dollars. This was all in my teens. I haven't done it in years.

Lately, I've seen some stuff on tumblr about shoplifting. There are some blogs that promote it, and post pictures of shoplifted stuff. These girls steal A LOT of stuff, and they steal much more expensive things than I did, huge piles of clothes and makeup, jewelery, and so on.

Some other people have claimed that shoplifting is a huge deal for employees, and that employees regularly get fired or punished when customers steal. When I was doing it, I know the store wouldn't like it, but I never thought that regular employees would get in trouble for not noticing it.

If you work (or have worked) in a store, did you ever get in trouble because people were shoplifting? Did it matter whether the stuff stolen was expensive or cheap, or how much of it was stolen?

I honestly wouldn't have done it if I'd thought I might be getting someone fired or punished. :/ But now I'm worried that maybe I did.

Re: Stealing (and question for people who work in retail)

(Anonymous) 2015-12-16 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
Ease your guilt complex. Nobody's getting fired over a couple bucks' worth of stuff missing, because that's not something that would even really come out until inventory time and then...who do you blame? How does ONE person get picked to be "the one who missed all the shoplifting?"

Re: Stealing (and question for people who work in retail)

(Anonymous) 2015-12-16 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think it's so much that people get fired "for not noticing," but they might get fired because items keep disappearing on their shifts and management might suspect it's them doing the stealing. Workplace theft being done by employees themselves is not uncommon or anything

Re: Stealing (and question for people who work in retail)

(Anonymous) 2015-12-16 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
^ obviously not referring to one stick of gum from a supermarket, I was talking about the people that steal entire shirts and such

Re: Stealing (and question for people who work in retail)

(Anonymous) 2015-12-16 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
Don't most stores have video cameras everywhere these days? Can't they just check the footage and see whether it was an employee or a customer doing the stealing?

Re: Stealing (and question for people who work in retail)

(Anonymous) 2015-12-16 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
There are numerous ways around that, and security footage can't cover every square inch of the store. With how many people leave clothes in the dressing rooms, too, you can't even be sure someone leaving with nothing stole something.

Re: Stealing (and question for people who work in retail)

(Anonymous) 2015-12-16 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
I never personally got punished, but they did severely cut our hours. It's true that the payroll for the employees comes directly out of how much money the store makes. And because of the high rates of loss, we had to have our bags checked when we left for the day, which was kind of humiliating. They also gave us incentives for helping LP catch people.

Don't beat yourself up about it now. You know better for the future.

Re: Stealing (and question for people who work in retail)

(Anonymous) 2015-12-16 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
Getting fired would not be the first thing to happen, but it depends on the company.

Big companies do usually expect theft to happen, but the punishment is more likely to go to the low level employee rather then the executive. That often means docked pay.

I wouldn't beat yourself up about things you did in the past, but if you ever talk to a teen who thinks they're "sticking it to the man" by stealing, you should inform them of the realities that they're probably hurting small business owners and low level employees.

Re: Stealing (and question for people who work in retail)

(Anonymous) 2015-12-16 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
ut if you ever talk to a teen who thinks they're "sticking it to the man" by stealing, you should inform them of the realities that they're probably hurting small business owners and low level employees.

Yes. This. Honestly, that's a good general rule anyway - people seem to be under the impression it's the ones at the top who run all the stores and own every business. That's not necessarily the case.
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Re: Stealing (and question for people who work in retail)

[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2015-12-16 04:43 am (UTC)(link)
...And the wallets of honest customers. Stores will put up prices to cover the looses incurred by theft. I know it was mentioned about supermarket prices during the time I worked in one.

Re: Stealing (and question for people who work in retail)

(Anonymous) 2015-12-16 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
Brother sells computers at big hardware store. An iMac was stolen on his watch (a dozen of people swarmed the vendors while the thieved took the valuable stuff). He and the staff got a warning, but the store assume it is something that happens, and that they can't stop all the thieves. So unless it happened very often and always on the same person's shift they probably shrugged it off.

Re: Stealing (and question for people who work in retail)

(Anonymous) 2015-12-16 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
At one point when I worked in retail, there was a head cashier who participated in a shoplifting ring. She would ring returns on goods that had been stolen. She got caught and prosecuted.

That store had an awful problem with shoplifters. It wasn't a few key chains they were after, either. They would take stacks of shirts using drop box strollers. Hundreds of dollars of merchandise in one fell swoop, IF employees weren't vigilant. But at the same time, we weren't supposed to go after someone we witnessed thieving. The manager of the store hightailed it out after a shoplifter one day and got a reprimand.

Losses like that cut into the bottom line and eventually into employee paychecks, just from the standpoint that numbers have to be made up from somewhere. So yes, stealing isn't a victimless crime.

As mentioned in another post, there was the bag checks, which weren't nice to go through on a daily basis. Other than the one person I mentioned above, no employee did any thieving that I was aware of.

Re: Stealing (and question for people who work in retail)

(Anonymous) 2015-12-16 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
That happened to my brother-in-law. He went to prison for it.

Re: Stealing (and question for people who work in retail)

(Anonymous) 2015-12-16 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
Eh. I doubt anyone got fired over your thefts specifically, but even if nobody got fired, it's not a great thing to do. Big businesses generally expect a certain percentage of losses due to theft and damage, so it's built into the costs. But if that percentage goes up because a lot of people think it's totally okay to steal from The Man, it's not The Man who suffers because they'll quickly passes those losses down to the consumers. People just like yourself will end up paying higher prices so corporations don't have to take the hit.

Food for thought.
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Re: Stealing (and question for people who work in retail)

[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2015-12-16 04:45 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly the tale I heard about supermarket thefts.

Re: Stealing (and question for people who work in retail)

(Anonymous) 2015-12-16 12:45 am (UTC)(link)

Lately, I've seen some stuff on tumblr about shoplifting. There are some blogs that promote it, and post pictures of shoplifted stuff. These girls steal A LOT of stuff, and they steal much more expensive things than I did, huge piles of clothes and makeup, jewelery, and so on.


Do they post pictures of themselves/identify who they are? Because if so, they're also not being very smart. (Of course, it wouldn't be headline news if teen girls weren't being very smart, but still.)

Re: Stealing (and question for people who work in retail)

(Anonymous) 2015-12-16 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
to be honest, I would take the stuff on tumblr with a grain on salt. I'm not saying legitimate shoplifting blogs don't exist, but I remember reading about....shoplifting....RP games...on tumblr where kids are just pretending to steal shit and post pics of things they bought or already owned or some such...because it was cool.
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Re: Stealing (and question for people who work in retail)

[personal profile] bigpaw 2015-12-16 04:08 am (UTC)(link)
That might be it, but I also think a lot of the ~shoplifting~ culture on tumblr is calling yourself an rp blog basically so you have a cover, even if it's not a very good one. So if someone actually tried to accuse you, you could say "no I'm just rping!!" I think that's the idea, though it's p ridiculous to me haha.
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Re: Stealing (and question for people who work in retail)

[personal profile] blitzwing 2015-12-16 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
I never got in any trouble for it. I felt really, really bad when I saw that people had stolen lice shampoo or condoms, or diabetes supplies.

It makes me sad to think of people having to steal those things because they can't afford them. People need those things for their health.

People did steal more expensive stuff, and with the way they repeatedly swiped the same, most expensive items, I had to wonder if they were taking them to sell on Ebay or trade to someone.
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Re: Stealing (and question for people who work in retail)

[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2015-12-16 04:39 am (UTC)(link)
I spent a few years working presentation (tidying the shelves) in a supermarket in my mid-20s. I never once heard about people getting fired because of customers shoplifting. All I ever heard was discussion about how shoplifting boosts the prices of supermarket goods by a whole lot.

Most of what I saw while in that job was stuff someone has picked up, opened, then duped the open packet on a random shelf elsewhere in the shop. That stuff universally went into the "damaged goods" bin out the back.

Re: Stealing (and question for people who work in retail)

(Anonymous) 2015-12-16 05:54 am (UTC)(link)
if you want to feel better about yourself, report those blogs to tumblr staff.
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Re: Stealing (and question for people who work in retail)

[personal profile] caerbannog 2015-12-16 08:19 am (UTC)(link)
I had one job that would charge me the price of items that go missing on my watch. I left that job very quickly after desperately finding another job. Not everyone has that opportunity.