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[Images] First Image: Tsukishima Kei and Yamaguchi Tadashi laughing from Haikyuu!!, Second Image: Bokuto Kotarou and Tetsuro Kuroo poking fun at Tsukishima Kei from Haikyuu!!, Third Image: Saitama and Genos posing from One Punch Man

[Text] I really hate when it's pretty clear a ship is popular for extra shallow reasons. This is really hard to explain, and I'm talking about general fandom, but I'll give an example.

Tsukishima/Yamaguchi vs. Kuroo/Tsukishima from the anime Haikyuu!! It couldn't be more obvious that people ship Kuroo/Tsukishima because they don't find Yamaguchi "cute/hot" enough for Tsukishima. The canon interactions are massively stacked in favour of Tsukishima/Yamaguchi (Kuroo and Tsukishima interact like...once, briefly, while Tsukishima and Yamaguchi are pretty much attached at the hip). This is actually just one example (even though it's one that bothers me!), but I think it illustrates my point. It just gets on my nerves, people may as well have neon signs proclaiming their shallowness. I feel like cute-but-plain characters like Yamaguchi get this sort of treatment a lot. (I see this trend in One Punch fandom too, where Saitama seems like he's just "tolerated" by some fans because it's obvious Genos is completely ~~in love with~~ devoted to Saitama.)

S!B: "People like what they like", "Get over it anon", "People are allowed to ship for whatever reason"....and yeah, I get all that, but I still want to get this off my chest because it still irritates me and I find it kind of gross.

Bonus!Secret: I always inevitably find the cute-but-plain characters in series adorable and relatable too, and it's even more frustrating knowing how they would be a "total fandom fave" (in some cases I've seen people outright admit that this is a reason) if they were more conventionally attractive.

I can't speak for the anime world, since I'm not well-versed in it and I don't know how similar or different it is from other types of series out there.

But considering a lot of series are full of nothing BUT conventionally attractive people to begin with, that kind of doesn't leave a lot of options or variety open for fans in terms of shipping. Even the plain characters in a lot of series are "Hollywood plain", or if they start off looking plain, they wind up sexy eventually. The series often wind up beating the fans to the punch in terms of shallowness!

All of that being said, however, I do agree with you that it is a shame that plain characters don't get as much love or attention.

Nayrt

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140616140325/haikyuu/images/0/08/TadashiYamaguchi.png

Nah, Yamaguchi is pretty expressly meant to be seen as a plain character. He has issues with his freckles, he's not as talented as the rest of the team, he actually met Tsukishima and became his best friend because Tsukishima decided to take the high road in terms of bullying for once and called the guys making fun of Yamaguchi pathetic, even though it's kind of implied he meant Yamaguchi was too, and that Yamaguchi just kind of grows on him throughout the years.

Here is Tsukishima for comparison:
http://33.media.tumblr.com/45ae963042ea73ed188ada9911ae0954/tumblr_n4bprbCe0a1r6jeoio4_250.gif

Once you compare Yamaguchi to the rest of the team it's definitely obvious he's supposed to be this series' version of a plain jane, and unfortunately I have seen a lot of people who claim they're "not into" shipping those two simply because they refuse to believe that Tsukishima could be with Yamaguchi, not because there's no chemistry or anything (honestly, I agree with secret!OP, they're always together), but because they just don't like the way Yamaguchi looks. It's a pretty clear case of yaoi dynamic bullshit going on. There is a reason why the other character (Kuroo) is a seme in like 99.9% of the fanworks featured for them. :/

If that theory is true, why are the Matsu brothers a monster six way juggernaut? They look like human Garfields.

1. They're still by far the most attractive characters compared to everyone else in the show.

2. For many, I suspect incest kink outweighs all other factors.

3. Most artists ignore the canon style and draw them as bishies anyway.

Is incest really that big of a kink though for the amount of following it has?

They're obviously been some bishification, but there's still a fair amount of artists who draw it close to the show's style as well.

Nayrt but...yes? Incest shipping is a HUGE kink. I write erotic novels for a living as a side business, both self-published and for larger publishers, and incest kink is the most popular thing on Amazon right now. We have to get around Amazon's stupid rules by writing "pseudo incest" (basically we have to imply that they're not related by blood somehow, usually "step" brother/sister/cousin/whatever, who suspiciously mention it once and then never bring it up again, falling back on "bro" or "sis", etc.), but people have a HUGE hard-on for incest right now, and there are plenty of gay and lesbian sub-categories for this too.

Oh come on, are we really going to deny the unwritten rule that characters that are in any way "plain" looking get ignored by a large percentage of fandom, and that they'll find a way to ship a hot character with a hot, one-episode side character before they'll acknowledge the fact that the hot character has a cute-but-plain sidekick/partner/whatever that has heaps of evidence?

Of course some series with "unattractive art" gets shipped, but the vast majority of fandoms ignore the plain characters, especially if there are other, hotter characters around. One of my very first fandoms when I was a twee little babe in fandom, Yoroiden Samurai Troopers, taught me that if you have 5 extra pounds on you in canon you're doomed to be "the fat one" (something passed down through the ages, how many people in fandom call Bolin the "fat one" despite him literally just being thick and muscled compared to his taller, thinner brother?), or that if your eyes are drawn a little more sparsely without the typical "anime sparkle" despite looking no different from anyone else in the show you're going to be the "plain one", etc.

This is pretty self-evident and happens in way too many fandoms for it to be a "theory".

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