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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-12-18 06:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #3271 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3271 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Mysterious Universe Podcast]


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[Elias Ericson]


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[Danny Phantom]


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13. [SPOILERS for transformers: more than meets the eye #47]



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14. [WARNING for rape]


















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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-18 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
The difference is Regina's a woman and God forbid a woman be treated like a rapist when she is one. The answer will also be in the comments likely to reply to you with 'women can't rape, misogynist!'

(Anonymous) 2015-12-19 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
Women can rape. But women rape men very VERY rarely. I mean numbers of false rape accusations and female perpetrated rapes against males is the big two myths of the MRA and in real life they are both so fucking rare that when people keep talking about them like this it is for all practical purposes nothing but a derailing tactic

(Anonymous) 2015-12-19 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
The Center For Disease Control is the ultimate MRA stronghold. D:

http://i.imgur.com/lwS0W.png

(Anonymous) 2015-12-19 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
1. Not an MRA.
2. The statistics are skewed because the legal definition of rape requires penetration. If forced envelopment is taken into account, women make up almost half of rapists. At least when men are their victims. I don't the statistics of female-on-female rape off the bat.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-19 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
You can't derail a discussion about rape by talking about rape.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-19 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
But it's not about rape is it? It's never about the horrible impact of rape when male victims are brought up. Because in order to talk about how rape affects the victim you need to have a degree of empathy for the victim and men reject empathy. So what it is about, what it always is about is "Look, a woman did somthing bad to a man! GASP. LOOK WHAT FEMINISM HAS WRAUGHT!"

Even this secret isn't about Graham. This secret is about "How come she get's sympathy"
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2015-12-19 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Even this secret isn't about Graham. This secret is about "How come she get's sympathy"

And the second half is about Kilgrave not Jessica. It is almost as if the secret is about the perpetrators of both crimes.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-19 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
But the killgrave was only there to facilitate the attack on the woman.
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2015-12-19 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
OP is comparing two people that have similar backgrounds/story lines. I expect OP recently watched JJ and noticed how the responses to both characters differed. That is what OP has a problem with (the responses).

(Anonymous) 2015-12-19 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
It seems to me you're being deliberately obtuse. You don't see this secret as "See this woman get's away with shit because shes a woman" and killgrave being the "look, it's just because shes a woman because a man isn't given the same freedom to be a rapist"
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2015-12-19 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Well, yes. But you said, "It isn't even focusing on Graham!"

Which of course it isn't. That isn't the point of the secret. The secret is focusing on the attacker (both halves).

(Anonymous) 2015-12-19 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
true, and it's using that focus to attack a woman. It's not about caring about men, it's about shitting on women.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-19 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
It's about wanting to see criminals treated the same regardless of their sex.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-19 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
It;s really not. I be you thought GG was about ethics in games journalism aswell.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-19 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
Now who's derailing?

(Anonymous) 2015-12-19 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
3/10 your dogged persistence is admirable but one-note
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2015-12-19 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
One specific woman who is a rapist. And (like in the real world) has been given a lighter 'punishment' for being a rapist.

And the secret is about calling out the disparity between how rapists are viewed because of their gender.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-19 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Because it's not just about more help and empathy for male victims, it's about more punishment and less whitewashing of female rapists. And I agree, as an anti-feminist, that the anti-feminist community has a problem with people tugging at the leash wanting to catch a woman doing something bad, but that's not what I'm doing here. Rape discussion isn't just about the victims it's also about how the rapists are dealt with and they're not dealt with equally.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-19 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
I don't want to talk to you anymore.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-19 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
Well then maybe you shouldn't have talked at all. Welcome to 'discussions and debates' 101.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-27 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
i think they find it hard to discuss with idiots that fail to know even the most basic definition of feminism.

(frozen comment)

(Anonymous) 2015-12-19 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
as an anti-feminist ... not dealt with equally

I can see why ayrt doesn't want to talk to you. You're a moron.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-19 11:40 am (UTC)(link)
"Rape discussion isn't just about the victims it's also about how the rapists are dealt with and they're not dealt with equally."


well, i know where i was going in this side of shits.... then.