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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-12-22 06:29 pm

[ SECRET POST #3275 ]


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(Anonymous) 2015-12-22 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
So basically race is your deciding factor?

(Anonymous) 2015-12-22 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
to be honest it's not an unreasonable supposition in the absence of any other information
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[personal profile] sarillia 2015-12-22 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't see why people immediately jump to race being the single most important thing for others when they see comments like that. It can just as easily be an added bonus to good acting. Just because some people want to see more nonwhite actors doesn't automatically mean they don't care about good acting too. It's not an either/or thing.
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[personal profile] iggy 2015-12-23 04:31 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, this. Thank you. Of course I also want him to be a good actor, and I thought he was perfectly fine in the role acting wise.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-24 09:56 am (UTC)(link)
It's like whenever someone wants there to be more diversity in video games and someone else starts talking as if it's impossible to do without making the gameplay suffer.

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(Anonymous) 2015-12-22 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
It was for Jew Jew. He basically said that he wanted to hire AoC for the movie.

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(Anonymous) 2015-12-22 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Except for the villains. They can all be white.
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[personal profile] sarillia 2015-12-23 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
I know someone who was saying that like it was a good thing and I was just like "you do know the goal isn't actually to make all the villains white and all the heroes not, right?"

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(Anonymous) 2015-12-22 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
0/10
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[personal profile] iggy 2015-12-23 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
Are you asking if I only think he's adorable because he's black? Because that's... pretty weird.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-23 04:37 am (UTC)(link)
I'm asking because the idea of Finn being white upsets you
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[personal profile] iggy 2015-12-23 04:41 am (UTC)(link)
Yes it does.

In another universe, if Finn had been cast as a white guy in the first place, I would have still liked his character upon seeing the film. I might have wished for more diverse casting if Rey had still been white, but he's a charming character and I would have liked him.

But that's not the case because Finn was cast as a black guy, and the idea of someone thinking a white guy should have been cast instead is yes, irritating to me.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-23 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
So again... race is the main factor as to why you don't want Plemons to be cast.
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[personal profile] iggy 2015-12-23 05:08 am (UTC)(link)
Race is a main factor in why I am glad Plemons was not cast, yes.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-23 05:24 am (UTC)(link)
At least you're honest about it.
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[personal profile] iggy 2015-12-23 05:33 am (UTC)(link)
There's no reason not to be. There's nothing wrong with being happy that ANOTHER white guy was not cast in this major movie role.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-23 05:53 am (UTC)(link)
Even if he's a better actor?

(Anonymous) 2015-12-23 06:02 am (UTC)(link)
Subjective. Boyega was more than capable in the role, and if he were bad, I'd wish for another MOC who was a better actor and not Plemmons.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-23 06:06 am (UTC)(link)
Why does race matter if it's not relevant to the character? Isn't that kinda racist?
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[personal profile] iggy 2015-12-23 08:46 am (UTC)(link)
Reverse racism isn't real. Good try though.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-23 03:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Reverse racism doesn't exist because racism is just racism, be white on black, black on white or asian on white.
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[personal profile] iggy 2015-12-23 03:41 pm (UTC)(link)
'Black on white racism'

Right. Lol.
Edited 2015-12-23 15:42 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2015-12-23 06:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah I'm sure when black people commit acts of violence on white people BECAUSE they are white -- and there are numerous examples of this -- that doesn't count as RACISM.

JFC.
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[personal profile] iggy 2015-12-23 06:41 pm (UTC)(link)
It's prejudice, not racism. And of course doing that isn't okay.

But it's not racism. Look it up.

Either way me not wanting a white guy in a movie is going to hurt exactly no one.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-23 07:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah I know the new stance from SJWs is "Racism = prejudice + power!" as a way to distance themselves from it I prefer the definition of "prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior."

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