[ SECRET POST #3276 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3276 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Nanny]


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[Inspector Gadget and the Gadgetinis]


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[Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood]


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Comments

[fscom]

07. http://i64.tinypic.com/i2n7ux.jpg
[Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood]

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I thought the beginning of Brotherhood was really weak, tbh. Much better done in the original anime.

[ketita]

Is there anybody who doesn't think that? It improved a lot later, but the beginning was not great.
I'm not sure what they could have done differently, at the same time, given that they assumed most people would have watched FMA2003 and a complete retread might have lost them viewers, but the result is a series that is not /quite/ as good as it could have been*

*I mean, ignoring the fact that I hated the ending with the burning fire of a thousand suns, but that was a manga issue too.

[(Anonymous)]

Curious... why didn't you like the ending? /somebody who hasn't watched Brotherhood up to the ending yet, but knows all the spoilers, so spoil away.

[ketita]

Hoo, okay XD I've ranted about this before, but this is it in a nutshell: I hate it when a series tries to sell me a semi-tragic ending put painting it pink and tying a bow on it and calling it happy.
There is no way that shit with Father would have ended well. No way. People randomly collapsing all over the place, you'd have had hundreds wounded at least. Crashed cars, people falling down stairs, falling off buildings, and who knows what else. So the fact that this wasn't acknowledged and didn't happen pissed me off.

Then there's Ed losing his alchemy, boy oh boy was I angry at that. For one, because I don't buy for a single second that he's actually *okay* with it. Ed loved doing alchemy. It was his pride and joy and fun and he'd been doing it since he was a kid. I can buy him being okay with it *eventually*, but not right off the bat. I am also angry that the story made him, and only him, eat the final results of the transmutation. Because literally everybody else used the P.Stone to get away scot-free, but no, noble Ed has to end up without alchemy.

From a mythos perspective, given the whole spiel about how the Doors guy is god and you and everything, I just cannot believe that there wouldn't be some kind of horrifying effect as a result of Ed just getting rid of his Doors. It's implied that this is something that every single human being has, regardless of their talent at alchemy. To me, this sounds bad. But like everything else, it's treated as Happy Ending.

In short, I ended up annoyed, and I just couldn't buy that this was a happy ending. I'm also sore that one of the relationships I was most invested in, the Elric Bros, didn't really get resolved properly imo.

[(Anonymous)]

You're not wrong. I do prefer Brotherhood by far (and I get why the crew probably balked at the thought of rehashing all the same stuff on the way to the divergence point), but the first act is pretty weak for that very reason.

[(Anonymous)]

Hm! I'm watching FMA: Brotherhood now and I'm not really aware of any weaknesses in exposition? Like, IDK if I'm supposed to know something the creators assumed people would generally know.

Some help? (I'm at Episode 10 of FMA: Brotherhood so please be careful with spoilers)

[likeadeuce]

It's mostly just the first episode that's weak IMHO, and it seems completely unnecessary/ like they went back & thought they had to make an intro episode for people who *didn't* know the first series or the manga.

[(Anonymous)]

I think the original series really emphasized how hard the search for the stone was, how long it took, how many false leads they came across and their willingness to help people regardless. Lots of character building stuff (and tragedy).

Here, once I put together a list of how the original series connected to Brotherhood just for this reason.


Episodes with continuity into Brotherhood. (I recommend watching 1-13 before watching FMA:B)

1-3 (repeated in FMA:B eps. 2&3)
4 (original but no discontinuity)
5-6 (explores Alchemy Exam that only has a small mention in FMA:B, slightly different introduction/timeline for Shou Tucker, different resolution for Shou Tucker)
8 (FMA:B carries character from this story)
9 (story not in FMA:B but is mentioned later on, carries a character from this story)
10 (original but no discontinuity)
11 (original but no discontinuity)
12 (original but no discontinuity)
13 (not in FMA:B, no discontinuity, character episode)

this is really where the story starts to go in a different direction

14-16 (discontinuity)
17 (?)
18 (library search follows plot, Scar story discontinuity)
19 (repeated in FMA: B ep.7 Hidden Truths)
20 (repeated in FMA:B ep.8)
21 (discontinuity, Greed's and chimera friends introduction story could crossover)
22 (no continuity)
23 (repeated in FMA:B ep.9, minor discontinuity)
24-25 (no continuity)
26 (alternative continuity to FMA:B ep.11)
27-28 (discontinuous present day, accurate flashbacks, repeated in FMA:B ep. 12)
29-34 (no continuity, Al and Greed story in FMA:B ep.13)
35 (original)
36 (no continuity)
37 (slight discontinuity [winry, archer scenes] mostly a character study for Mustang and his soldiers) recommend watching, it's funny
38-40 (no continuity) marta's flashbacks about orders in the war on ishbal could crossover

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah I thought so too, they really rushed through it. But I can't really blame them. Would you want to redo so much that was so similar? Animation is expensive, it's better to put the effort into the new and different stuff.

[(Anonymous)]

I CARE, OP.

[iggy]

They did rush through, and at the expense of cutting stuff that was kind of important. Like Yoki is in the series quite a bit later on, but we don't even get the intro storyline with him. And I'm sore about them totally cutting and altering Mei's introduction. A lot of good scenes that weren't in 2003 were still cut.

I still prefer those episodes to the 2003 version, because the 2003 version added a bunch of stuff in that span of time I really disliked, but--- it is one of the reasons I'd recommend the manga above all.

[(Anonymous)]

Personally I didn't really find this at all, and I much preferred Brotherhood. I finished watching it for the first time on Monday night, and adored it.

The only thing that really annoyed me about the series as a whole, was them leaving Mustang and Hawkeye hanging. Thank god for fic.