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[(Anonymous)]

If it is enact policies that are for all intents and purposes identical to the Republicans

it isn't, though, so that's kind of a useless hypothetical

[(Anonymous)]

Hilary is what Republicans were 20 years ago.

[(Anonymous)]

No Republican, not even Tricky Dick Nixon, is as dishonest and deceitful as Hillary 'I was named for Sir Edmund even though he wasn't famous yet' Clinton.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

It makes me sad that she's the closest to a female PotUS we've got so far. A female PotUS would be awesome. I don't want it to be her.

[meadowphoenix]

So the Iran-Contra affair just didn't happen, eh?

ETA: I mean, unless you think politifact is in her pocket, so is in fact more honest then the current crop of Republicans.

[(Anonymous)]

"my heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true, but the facts and the evidence tell me it's not" - ronald reagan

[(Anonymous)]

I think if someone says she's "like Republicans were 20 years ago" they have no sense of time or US history? It's more like, Republicans were like that back in the *fifties* maybe. Before the Federal Government intervened in the Civil Rights movement and Kennedy and Johnson were told that if they did that, they would "lose the South for a generation". And they did, and they did. And that's when the Republicans became the Party of Racists, Sexists, Homophobes, and Fundamentalists and the Democrats became the Party of People At Least Attempting Not to Be Those Things. When the US political parties became increasingly Flanderized.

Anyone who thinks Republicans twenty years ago were like Hilary Clinton is now must not have been not old enough, or even alive, twenty years ago. They did not live through the 1980s Christian Right movement, or experience what the Republicans did to the Clintons when Bill was in office.

[meadowphoenix]

ia, it's patently absurd to pretend that she's like the modern republicans. That said, I think what people mean is that she's a neo-con like most republicans and opportunistic as fuck like more republicans than democrats openly are. But except for war-hawking, you simply can't compare social or economic positions.

When the US political parties became increasingly Flanderized.

I don't know, I don't think anything can top the Federalists v. Anti-Federalist/Democratic Republicans. Nothing I've seen has come close to stauchness of those positions. Slavery was a hell of beast.

[(Anonymous)]

This is so obviously untrue that I can only read it as the result of a complete and total hatred for Hillary Clinton as a person. and if you despise Hillary Clinton personally, that's fine, but you're not really helping leftism by doing so. so please don't dress it up as an ideological thing, if that's the reason for your distaste.

[(Anonymous)]

Hillary was around 20 years ago. Plenty of Republicans who are around now were around 20 years ago. They hated each other at the time and they still do now.

Like, do you think 2015 Hillary has moved dramatically to the right of 1995 Hillary? Or what?

[(Anonymous)]

She's followed the the center of the Overton Window as it shifted, no doubt about it. The Republicans have shifted rapidly and drastically to the right, thanks to Satan's ball sack Dick Cheney, and in order to not seem like she is on the extreme left of American politics by not moving, she has shifted with it to remain center but the center is now radically right of the previous center.

[(Anonymous)]

On precisely what issues has she shifted? Where, specifically, are her political beliefs to the right of where they were in the 1990s?

You could probably argue that Obamacare is a more conservative plan for healthcare reform than she proposed in the 1990s - but I would argue that she wasn't really the one who proposed Obamacare, and I think it makes sense to defend it once it's been passed.

Outside of that - what?

I agree that the Republican Party has shifted to the right. That doesn't mean that Clinton has.