[ SECRET POST #3280 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3280 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Fandom as we once knew it is dead and won't be resurrected. A casualty of the march of social progress. As was stated upthread, you can't critique or comment negatively even in the slightest now... all that exists of fandom is reblogging gifs and giving thumbs up to someone who did something more accomplished that scratching their own ass. And trigger warnings. Trigger warnings for everything.

[elaminator]

I don't believe that! It's the internet, you can say what you want but that doesn't mean other people will like it. (Which has always been the case.)

I mean, if you say something dickish you're much more likely to get called out on it, but I also know that sometimes people get harassed or accused of this or that for no good reason. Again though, I think to some extent that has always happened... It's just easier now, and more people are online than ever before so there's more people to misbehave.

“Can't comment negatively" just made me think of YouTube comments. This is not the case, anon.

I do see discussion, it's just rarer and harder to find. Often if you want to make friends or hold a decent conversation you have to do more searching and maybe frequent multiple sites. It's a more involved process now but it exists, just...like you said, not in the same exact manner that it used to.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

I 'm not complaining that I can't be a troll...? I'm saying how you can't give feedback that isn't 100% positive, or say you didn't like this thing or that element, because people don't accept constructive criticism. Anything negative is now an attack. I'm not talking personal insults either. I've seen people get told off for pointing out misuse of their/there/they're in a fic.

[(Anonymous)]

You are getting fanfic for free, just say thank you and move on if you cannot say something nice. It isn't your job to nitpick pedantic details, how do you know it isn't someone writing in their second language?

[(Anonymous)]

And here we have a prime example of the cancer that is killing fandom.

[(Anonymous)]

Because someone writing in a second language has no interest in furthering their knowledge of that language!

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt

Nor is it your job to police reviews. As a fanfic writer, I do actually appreciate having typos pointed out, and I very much like hearing readers opinions on what happened in my story, even if they didn't like it. Obviously, I prefer that they state their opinion in a coherent manner instead of just "this sux!!11!", but if I get those reviews, I just ignore them. I actually DO want to know what readers think.

If you're a special snowflake author who can't handle any feedback that isn't "you're awesome!" and/or you're writing in a second language and feeling sensitive about it, then add a disclaimer at the front of your fic.

Otherwise the effect is that, fandom-wide, nobody says anything at all because of a minority of snowflakes react poorly.

[(Anonymous)]

I first came across this "don't say anything if it isn't 100% praise" attitude on LJ. Several times I was berated for criticising my own fics. I understand not being harsh to other people's fics, but my own? I hated that attitude so much. It drove me away from several LJ communities.

Got to say, I think tumblr is even worse. I tried it and soon deleted my blog there.

These days I just share my fanfic directly with a very small circle of friends. I don't need some stranger telling me I can't even criticise my own work. Okay, so be it. None of you get my fics posted publicly any more. (Yes, I'm bitter, but it's definitely for the best. I actually want to improve my writing over time, not just get x amount of comments.)

[elaminator]

Sorry, didn't mean to imply that you in particular are a troll, but you mentioned negative comments so my mind jumped to a lot of the hostility in fandom. (A lot of which is personal, though I see that's not what you're talking about.) Not everything negative or critical is terrible and mean and should cease existing, but it very much depends on the particular situation for me.

I don't see why someone would get angry over an error being pointed out in a fic. I can see how it might be embarrassing to the author, but not why they would do anything other then correct it and move on.

However, I've seen “This fic would've better with less -insert main character of the fic here-", or “Would've enjoyed this more if you had ended with this pairing instead", and while I don't think those comments are evil (rude though, sure) I do think they're totally pointless.

So I can see where some perfectly innocent and reasonable comments might be taken the wrong way or how someone might overreact to them, but I also think some people leave comments that they believe to be helpful and aren't.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

Yeah, definitely not speaking out in favor of youtube type comments. :P

“This fic would've better with less -insert main character of the fic here-", or “Would've enjoyed this more if you had ended with this pairing instead"

Ugh, this. I had forgotten about this. Totally in agreement here.

[(Anonymous)]

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[(Anonymous)]

Some trigger warnings I can understand, but now people wanna trigger warning if someones eyes are visible or for food. Sorry, but seeing other peoples eyes and eating is a part of everyday life.

I've seen trigger warnings for every minor detail and they take it so seriously like... how do these people exists off of the internet? The stuff they want tagged is the stuff you'd see every day just going to school or to the store.

[(Anonymous)]

They're confusing triggers for squicks and dislikes, and as someone with legit triggers (flashbacks, anxiety attacks, etc.) it pisses me right the fuck off.

Either these people are still in school/at home and somehow wrapped in cotton or they don't go outside. I suspect the former, and I suspect they're going to be in for a hell of a culture shock once real life slaps them in the face. Try complaining to HR that you were "triggered" because your boss criticised your work or told you to shape up instead of praising everything you do and treating you like a special snowflake. You'll either end up perpetually broke and unemployed or you'll get over yourself.