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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-12-28 06:41 pm

[ SECRET POST #3281 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3281 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Sam Smith, Duran Duran, a-ha, Madonna, Alicia Keys and Jack White]


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[The DCU]


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[Star Trek: The Next Generation]


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[Jojo's Bizarre Adventure]


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[Paladin Danse - Fallout 4]


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[A Song of Ice and Fire]


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[Candy Candy]


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[Agent Carter, Jessica Jones and others]















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(Anonymous) 2015-12-29 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
Do you also object to the Barsoom series and other planetary romances along those lines being called science fiction? Because honestly, most of those aren't that different from The Blazing World.

What about Star Wars? There's no real science anywhere in those movies, but they're still widely acknowledged as science fiction.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-29 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
If someone tried to claim that Barsoom and other planetary romances were hugely significant for the development of science fiction as a coherent genre, and that they were core members of the class, then yes, I would disagree with that argument.

I'm not that interested in just saying "What year was this made, and is it, according to some rubric, within the boundaries of science fiction?" I don't think that's a useful question to ask, at all. The reason that I think Frankenstein is important is because there's a throughline - both thematically and historically - with what I think of as the central, basic functions and works and themes of science fiction. And I just don't think that's true for planetary romance or science fantasy or whatever.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-29 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
If your argument hinges solely on "Is this important to the history or the development of science fiction as a genre?" then I must continue to wonder what your thoughts are on how Star Wars fits into all this. You can argue until you're blue in the face that Star Wars is really fantasy, or that it's science-fantasy rather than "pure" science fiction (which I would agree with, btw), but that doesn't change how influential it's been to the science fiction genre, especially in the context of film and television.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-29 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
No, I'd agree Star Wars has been pretty important to those things, although I tend to think much, much more about SF literature rather than movies or TV. And also I think, you know, it's mostly become important only in the last 40 or so years - for obvious reasons.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-29 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, if you're going to /space/ with /spaceships/ I pretty much give you a sci-fi ticket, just not to be pedantic. If you go to a magic realm, you get fantasy.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-31 06:10 am (UTC)(link)
Does SW count as scifi in retrospect what with all the science it's inspired? Everything from advances in artificial limbs to robotics will generally owe something to people being inspired by something in Star Wars. Though yeah, the plots are far more fantasy.