case: ([ Hiruma; ... ])
Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-02-26 06:01 am

[ SECRET POST #417 ]


⌈ Secret Post #417 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

1.


__________________________________________________



2.


__________________________________________________



3.


__________________________________________________



4.


__________________________________________________



5.


__________________________________________________



6.


__________________________________________________



7.


__________________________________________________



8.


__________________________________________________



9.


__________________________________________________



10.


__________________________________________________



11.


__________________________________________________



12.


__________________________________________________



13.


__________________________________________________



14.


__________________________________________________



15.


__________________________________________________



16.


__________________________________________________



17.


__________________________________________________



18.


__________________________________________________



19.


__________________________________________________



20.


__________________________________________________



21.


__________________________________________________



22.


__________________________________________________



23.


__________________________________________________



24.


__________________________________________________



25.


__________________________________________________



26.


__________________________________________________



27.


__________________________________________________



28.


__________________________________________________



29.


__________________________________________________



30.


__________________________________________________



31.


__________________________________________________



32.


__________________________________________________



33.


__________________________________________________



34.


__________________________________________________



35.


__________________________________________________



36.


__________________________________________________



37.


__________________________________________________



38.


__________________________________________________



39.


__________________________________________________



40.


__________________________________________________



41.


__________________________________________________



42.


__________________________________________________



43.


__________________________________________________



44.


__________________________________________________



45.


__________________________________________________



46.


__________________________________________________



47.


__________________________________________________



48.


__________________________________________________



49.


__________________________________________________



50.


__________________________________________________



51.


__________________________________________________



52.


__________________________________________________



53.


__________________________________________________



54.


__________________________________________________



55.


__________________________________________________



56.


__________________________________________________



57.


__________________________________________________



58.


__________________________________________________



59.


__________________________________________________



60.


__________________________________________________



61.


__________________________________________________



62.


__________________________________________________



63.


__________________________________________________



64.


__________________________________________________



65.


__________________________________________________



66.


__________________________________________________



67.


__________________________________________________



68.


__________________________________________________



69.


__________________________________________________



70.


__________________________________________________



71.


__________________________________________________



72.


__________________________________________________



73.


__________________________________________________



74.


__________________________________________________



75.


__________________________________________________



76.



Notes:

If you resubmit secrets, please mark them as resubmissions. Like add "this was too big last time" or something, or it might get shoved into the repeats. Kind of can't really remember 600+ unique secrets a week gdhtkjdfhf

Secrets Left to Post: 10 pages, 250 secrets from Secret Submission Post #060.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 ] broken links, [ 1 2 3 4 5 6 ] not!secrets, [ 1 2 3 4 ] not!fandom, [ 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 ] too big, [ 1 2 3 ] repeat, [ 1 ] posted twice, [ 1 ] etc, [ 1 ] ok take it to comments, [ 1 ] wtf.
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: 21

[identity profile] yachinami.livejournal.com 2008-02-26 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Then why aren't we calling her the German word for "duck"?

Re: 21

(Anonymous) 2008-02-26 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, we clearly ALL fail because we aren't calling her "Ente." ♥

Re: 21

(Anonymous) 2008-02-26 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
^ not the OP, by the way
sammywhatammy: (stupidity abounds)

Re: 21

[personal profile] sammywhatammy 2008-02-26 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the point is that who CARES about semantics, call her whatever the fuck you want and don't lose respect for people over a NAME because it's stupid.

Re: 21

(Anonymous) 2008-02-26 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree that the whole debate is pretty dumb! I probably could have phrased my comment better to reflect that.

Re: 21

[identity profile] haleysings.livejournal.com 2008-02-26 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
The same reason the fairytales are translated into english as "Puss-In-Boots" or "The Frog Prince".

Because the original Japanese version was intended to sound like "duck" to the (Japanese) viewers. The name had a meaning to the Japanese viewers--there were puns in the show, she actually was a duck, in the first episode she clarifies saying "My NAME is Duck"...

Translating it keeps the same affect in English. We know from the beginning she's "Duck", and she's a duck, and yes it sounds silly because it's SUPPOSED to sound silly.

That being said, I think the OP is being unreasonable--I don't think there's exactly anything WRONG for calling her Ahiru. But there's a reason why it was in Japanese in the original translation, and for those who started off with the fansubs, I think it's perfectly understandable. (But, also, the reason is WHY ADV translated her name, and why I prefer Duck.)

(Even the town's name is shown in German in the anime, and they call it by the Japanese name in the show--since the text shows the town's name in German, but they speak it in Japanese, that only confirms to me that they're all speaking German and everything's translated into Japanese or English for the audience's benefit. Same way Beauty and the Beast is set in France but everything's in English)

Sorry, tl;dr, I know, it's just a pet peeve of mine.

Re: 21

[identity profile] yachinami.livejournal.com 2008-02-27 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
Um, yeah, I know that. It's perfectly fine and understandable if people like Duck, since it's officially like that in the release.

My comment was just a jab at the elitist tone the OP made in their comment.

Re: 21

[identity profile] haleysings.livejournal.com 2008-02-27 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I don't really like the tone, either. XD;; I do admit it's something that bothers me, though.

Although I don't mind as long as Fakir doesn't start saying "baka". THAT'S when I hit the back button on fanfics, unless the writer is REALLY good.

Re: 21

[identity profile] yachinami.livejournal.com 2008-02-27 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
Names are more personal, so there's going to be a preference, and I admit I can usually go either way when it comes to honorifics (and even going as far as character specific catch-phrases), but randomly slapping in Japanese words when there's NO reason NOT to use whatever language you're writing the fic in is seriously facepalm-worthy, I totally agree (and is why I generally don't read fic.) If I want "'daijoubu?! kawaii baka neko?!' he asked worriedly", I'll just read the whole fic in Japanese to begin with, thanks =_=

Re: 21

[identity profile] kirarakim.livejournal.com 2008-02-27 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
I actually disagree with people who use the Sakura example to explain why they call her Ahiru and not Duck because unlike Sakura, Ahiru is not a real name. I do realize that Ahiru is supposed to be Duck because she is a duck. I just like using the Japanese word for Duck because that is how I first heard it. I don't think it takes away from the fairy tale aspect whether you call her Duck or Ahiru as long as you understand that it means essentially the same thing.

I just think both names are right and people should call her what they want.

Re: 21

[identity profile] haleysings.livejournal.com 2008-02-27 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
That's really the best way to go about things....

Re: 21

[identity profile] haro.livejournal.com 2008-02-27 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
I thought the same thing. In that case what the heck makes the English one more accurate than the Japanese one?