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fandomsecrets2016-01-08 06:42 pm
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(Anonymous) 2016-01-09 02:05 pm (UTC)(link)So you're saying that people can only write eroticized rape in drawerfic? I believe that would be called "mind policing".
I am a rape survivor. I write rape fantasy because it helps me deal with that. It puts me back in control of a situation where I had none.
To say that I shouldn't share that publicly with other survivors who may feel the same way may be your opinion, but censoring others' public works is. (Which is what you're saying because even though you've said you don't want to make it illegal, you're saying you're going to harass those who do.)
You don't have to be okay with it. You can express your opinion if you want. But trying to insist that people can't write about what they've gone through in a way that reframes it is hurtful.
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(Anonymous) 2016-01-10 12:11 am (UTC)(link)If you felt the need to writer hateful mischaracterizations of people of color in order to deal with some past trauma you had experienced, we would not be having this conversation. You and I would both recognize (presuming that you are a decent person) that one individual's need to cope (however valid) does not outweigh the production of potentially toxic ideology throughout an entire community.
But trying to insist that people can't write about what they've gone through in a way that reframes it is hurtful.
I am not trying to insist people can't write it, and if you read my comments again you will realize that. But I don't agree that people who write it are in the right to then post it publicly on a generalized forum. I would, however, be open to the possibility of having forums specifically for stories that contain such content.
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(Anonymous) 2016-01-10 03:27 am (UTC)(link)So you're saying that people can only write eroticized rape in drawerfic? I believe that would be called "mind policing".
No. No, no. Um, ha. No. "Mind policing" would be if I wanted to pass a law that made it illegal for people to think thoughts about eroticized rape. Do I want to do that? No, I don't want to do that. Do I want to pass a law that would make it illegal for people to write down their thoughts about eroticized rape and make them into a story that eroticized rape? No, I don't want to do that. Do I want to pass a law that would make it illegal for people to share their story, which eroticizes rape, and which they wrote from their thoughts about eroticized rape? No, I don't want to do that.
I'm just don't like the fact that people do publish or publicly post stories which contain that kind of content. I don't like it. Do I expect it to stop because I don't like it? No. Should other people expect me to start liking it? No. Expressing my dislike, and discussing the reasons for my dislike accomplishes one very basic thing: It keeps my voice - my views and opinions - in the discussion. Which is valuable, well, pretty much everywhere, but particularly in environments like fandom, which are pretty much run by public opinion.
This is some pretty basic stuff, but the way people are reacting here makes it seem like it needs to be said: Keeping voices with differing opinions in a discussion is vital. Otherwise, you don't have a discussion. Which means you don't have a democratic process. You have a hivemind. Which, now that I think of it, brings us right back to the 1984 terminology we all so love to use as shorthand.