[ SECRET POST #3292 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3292 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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09. [WARNING for eating disorders]





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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Also (forgot to put this in my reply to you, above), whether the villain has sympathetic qualities or not, ignoring whatever they did to become a villain and expecting the other characters to ignore it too, because their backstory is so tragic, is not redemption in my book. Also, if a villain is going to become one of the good guys, they need to earn the trust of their would-be allies. They don't get to just waltz in and demand it--even if they've been forgiven. Forgiveness and trust are two different fish.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree - characters should be held accountable, by other characters and themselves, and they should have to work to earn the trust of the other characters.

But there's a difference between "redemption should be hard and painful and worked for", which I agree with, and "this character is completely irredeemable". I've seen the latter a lot, even for sympathetic and/or comparatively low-level villains or in relatively idealistic settings.

[(Anonymous)]

There are also situations where fans say that characters whose ultimate fate is still up in the air, or there is narrative evidence pointing either way, can't be redeemed.