[ SECRET POST #3292 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3292 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

unrealistic erotic fantasies

So...you're claiming that rape is not a common, everyday occurrence? Every bit as "realistic" and prevalent as hate speech? or that there's nothing propaganda-ish about the eroticization/romanticisation of power-imbalanced, often dubiously consensual sex, which crops up so nauseatingly frequently, in our culture?

After thinking about this for a few seconds, it's not worth the effort I've already put into this comment, let alone any more.

[(Anonymous)]

(I'm probably wasting my time, because you keep using straw-men and don't even seem to want to consider that things are more nuanced than the black and white pov you obviously have, but I'm bored so what the hell)

I'm not saying rape isn't common.
I'm saying the way it's written in fiction (specially in fanfiction) most of the time is not only unrealistic, but (and this is the important part) it's not written with an intention to make it realistic.

That doesn't make it perfectly good, but doesn't make it completely bad either. The how (how it's portrayed, how it's consumed, how people react to it) matters far more than anything, but most of that depends on each person and any generalization is pure nonsense.

On the other hand, all hateful miss-characterizations are done on purpose to send a (hateful and twisted, but with the pretension of being realistic) message, which is something completely different.

[(Anonymous)]

it's not written with an intention to make it realistic.

And if people want to take the effort to articulate that, in some detail, at the start of their fic, that would go at least a little bit of the way towards ameliorating the issue. Because when you play with something toxic in public, and encourage others to join in, the least you can do is make the effort to thoroughly remind people of what it is and what it isn't. People will think they don't need this. But as a culture we do need it, because as a culture we are very evidently susceptible to these concepts.

As I said before: it's not about people "drinking the Kool Aid," it's about what's in the water.

all hateful miss-characterizations are done on purpose

This is no longer particularly relevant to the topic being discussed, but it must be said that this is one hell of a generalization. Do you really believe that all racist people know they're racist and are just pretending to believe racist things about others? If only it were so simple. Some hateful mischaracterizations are done on purpose. Some are done because the writer truly believes that's the way the people they're writing about are. Some are done because the writer wants to believe that's the way the people they're writing about are, because the simplicity of it feels good to them and they're afraid of the complication of seeing past the fantasy they hold of a simple world where some are plainly superior to others. And so on and so forth.