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(Anonymous) 2016-01-10 01:18 am (UTC)(link)No, I believe it's you who has a problem with what I'm calling it. I, on the other hand, have very specifically chosen that term, as it is the term that most accurately describes the subclass of fiction (fan or otherwise) that I take issue with.
Do I take issue with rape that is depicted as a profoundly negative experience and a vile act? No.
Do I take issue with dubcon depicted in an erotic way? Not unless it's actually rape and the person writing it mistook it for dubcon because their grasp of consent is dodgy at best. (e.g. master coerces slave into saying yes.)
I take issue, very specifically, with fiction in which one character (or multiple characters) force sexual acts upon another character, whom they are aware does not want to experience or participate in said sexual acts. And the narrative depicts these events with the deliberate intention of making them appear erotic/arousing or romantic.
"Eroticism of pedophillic-traits" porn with small breasted women
Not an accusation I would make, and not one I agree with. So long as the fic isn't eroticizing statutory rape, I have no issue with it. If an adult character is fetishized for being "childlike" that does squick me out a bit, but I generally consider that a personal squick, nothing more.
"Fetishism of fecal-expulsion areas" Anal sex!
Are you deliberately strawmanning my argument, or are you just this obtuse? Again I repeat: I use the term "eroticized rape" because I mean "eroticized rape." If I meant to include a broader range of tropes, I would use a different term that left room for the inclusion of a broader range of tropes.
Just go "They like stuff like the romance in Beauty and the Beast" and see how quickly people gasp and condemn them.
For the record, many people are borderline-condemnatory of Beauty And The Beast, due to it's creepy romanticization of what essentially amounts to Stockholm Syndrome. However, your use of it as a comparison is so inaccurate as to be laughable. If Beast had raped Belle, while she was still his captive, that would be the gist of the kind of fiction I'm talking about. So yes, good point anon! How about you try asking your friends and family how they would feel if, in Beauty And The Beast, Beast had forced himself on a captive Belle. I bet they'd all be very open to a theatrical re-release of that "harmless" little rewrite.