[ SECRET POST #3294 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3294 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah this. People in the past weren't monolithic in their prejudices or views any more than people are today.

However, I don't think that there are fewer assholes today than in the past, or that people in the past having prejudices that weren't considered prejudices back then are enough to deem someone a asshole. That's sort of ridiculous. A huge number of current-day people who we all think of as really nice and amazing and accepting in 2016 probably have prejudices that will be thought of as unpalatably assholish in 2050. That doesn't mean we're all secretly assholes.

I think a better way of portraying changing prejudicial norms, as a society-wide thing, is to show that in the past people did have a different line in the sand for what was an acceptable/forgivable prejudice when it came to prejudices. Like today, it would be very hard to write a friendship between a person who thought black people were meant to be slaves and someone who didn't, because today the blacks-are-slaves guy could only be a horrendous asshole who viewed the rest of the world as wrong and himself and his tiny group of like-minded people as right. But in the past, when the majority of the white population in the American south thought black people were meant to be slaves, the blacks-are-slaves guy might just be a normal guy who bought into some society-wide cultural conditioning and therefore a friendship between him and an anti-slavery anti-racism guy could work. That kind of thing.

[dreemyweird]

This is a good comment <3

[(Anonymous)]

I agree, an excellent comment. :)

OP

[(Anonymous)]

The part about 2050 seems a little too . . . universal, I want to say? I mean, it's not like black people's thoughts and feelings changed much between the past and the present. There just were a lot of white people who didn't listen to black people. I go along with whatever people say about themselves as long as it doesn't present a direct threat to anyone else. (I don't know if we'll ever have a socially accepted category for dragons in human bodies or whatnot, but if we do, I'll at least know I wasn't too big of an asshole about it.)

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

Well, I don't mean it in a universal way, I just set that out as one possible example - kind of like how some assumptions that were "normal" and which even perfectly nice kind well-intentioned people never questioned because it didn't occur to them to do decades ago are pretty unacceptable now. (And usually the good people are the ones who go "oh, huh" and change their opinion once they started thinking about it.) But yeah of course it's not universal.

And as for being accepting, IA with you about your example, but it's still really a matter of having the right attitude (like, as you said, being open to the possibility that you assumed wrong or that you don't know everything) rather than a matter of forming specific opinions that turn out to be the correct ones. Forming opinions and assumptions that turn out to be prejudiced and wrong isn't assholish in and of itself IMO. Hell, there's probably prejudices or opinions we have that we don't even notice as a thing that could possibly be considered terrible. And it's nigh impossible to function in the world without making some assumptions and forming some opinions about humanity, and some of those assumptions are going to be wrong even when made with good intentions and attitudes, it's only human I guess.

[diet_poison]

This is a great comment. Very well-thought-out, OP.