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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-01-11 06:39 pm

[ SECRET POST #3295 ]


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(Anonymous) 2016-01-12 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT It's been a really long time since I last tried to sit through it, but I remember thinking that all the characters were really condescending to anyone who didn't think exactly the same way.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2016-01-12 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
Which makes sense since the author himself is really condescending to anyone who disagress with his point of view.

I really, really hate author tract writing in general, and especially in fanfic (published or not) where you are taking someone else's characters and changing them to suit the perspective you want to shill. I hate this fic for the same reason I hate Wicked, which is really the same thing in published form.

DA

(Anonymous) 2016-01-12 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
With Wicked, it's weird.

In a way I sorta respect what I feel it did, which was being a published re-imagining of a published work and show that it can be successful and respected.

But I found the book to be overly heavy,pretty preachy and really uncomfortably dark in some places.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2016-01-12 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
I just couldn't get past the fact that the author had to completely twist the world in order to make the points he wanted to make. In the actual Oz books there is no hint that talking animals are unequal. I didn't like the dark tone, but the worst part for me was that it didn't fit with the world at all.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2016-01-12 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
I think it was going for a "the canon was written unreliably by the victors" thing.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2016-01-12 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
And I really dislike that, honestly. It feels really disrespectful to take someone else's world they've created and then to do that to it and publish it. Especially because it was clear that the author just really wanted to make these points and was forcing things to fit into the points he wanted to make rather than organically working with the characters and setting as they were.
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[personal profile] ceebeegee 2016-01-12 06:54 am (UTC)(link)
Wait, what? Wicked is some sort of vehicle for the author's pet cause? Maybe that explains why I found it literally unreadable. (And I'm a huge, HUGE Oz fan--I've read and own all the original Baum books.) What was the cause?

I hated MOR. I found it amusing at first but then it degenerated into a lot of REALLY LONG digressions and I couldn't stand the Nice Guy Snape screed against Lily, and the sexism seriously bothered me. And there's a lingering whiff of grudgefic aka This is How It SHOULD Have Been Written. I gave it up after 10 (?) chapters--sometime around that Let's Break Out Bellatrix and Fly to the Moon weirdness.

I thought Luminosity worked as a brief parody but was a little tedious as a full-length work.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2016-01-12 07:10 am (UTC)(link)
There were a few, but the big one was using talking animal rights to talk about racism. Which, racism is an important thing to talk about. But when you have to change the fictional world your writing in to make it happen, it rather ruins the message.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-12 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Please whitesplain more.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2016-01-12 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay? I have no problems with talking about racism at all. In fact, given that as far as I'm aware everyone in the Oz books is white, there could be an a message about racism there. But in the books talking animals are not treated any differently. There is no prejudice against them. So pretending there was ruins any point the author was trying to make.