[ SECRET POST #3297 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3297 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Knowing that you use fanfic tropes, or even being aware of them, doesn't teach you how to write without relying on them. There's a reason why the few fanwriters-turned-published-writers usually write stuff that feels derivative and is worse than their own worse fanfic.

Fanfiction can teach you how to write up to a point. If you want to get published, eventually you have to move on.

[(Anonymous)]

wow i should not comment on f!s on five hours of sleep. Look at those typos.

[kallanda_lee]

If you're a good writer, you're a good writer. You can write pulp and still have the ability to write well when you need to.

[(Anonymous)]

While I agree that fanfic can teach you some terrible habits (I still have to pull description out of my brain with a pair of tongs, and I haven't written fanfic in something like five years), I think that writing something is better than writing absolutely nothing, which is where OP is right now.

>>There's a reason why the few fanwriters-turned-published-writers usually write stuff that feels derivative and is worse than their own worse fanfic.

[citation needed]

[(Anonymous)]

Cassandra Claire? EL James?

[(Anonymous)]

They were not good fan writers that just happened to feed the id of many tho

[(Anonymous)]

*snort* Weaksauce. Clare is a wanker from way back and James just catered to the lowest common denominator. Those two examples do not a "usually" make.

[(Anonymous)]

I know both Seanan McGuire and Ursula Vernon are open about the fact they write/wrote fanfic and they've both won awards for their writing.

[(Anonymous)]

Of course you have to move on if you want to get published. Nobody is going to publish your 200,000 words of MLP porn since they tend to publish original works.

I agree that fanfiction teaches bad habits but look around at popular fiction, READING teaches bad writing habits. You have to write at all to write well and for some people, writing fanfiction makes sense because it has an actual audience and some impetus to finish a piece.

[(Anonymous)]

Naomi Novik was a fan writer before her original fiction was published, and Uprooted is one of the best novels of 2015. James and Clare didn't write original fiction really, they filed names off AUs and published those. OP isn't doing that, so, not to worry.

[a_potato]

There's a reason why the few fanwriters-turned-published-writers usually write stuff that feels derivative and is worse than their own worse fanfic.

...that you know of.

I don't think it's incorrect to assume that there are some fanwriters-turned-published-writers out there who were not well-known in their fandoms and who haven't advertised their beginnings. Fanfiction is generally looked down upon; you don't tell people you write or have written it unless you've already got an in.

[(Anonymous)]

Or you can file off the serial numbers and publish your fanfic! Now easier than ever.

Sorry if I sound trite, but this post reeks of "fanfiction is inherently inferior". There's a lot more bad fic, yes, but a good writer is a good writer all the same.

(Published author here who doesn't switch between "original fiction" and "fanfiction" modes. I feel the main difference is the amount of editing/reworking/rewriting involved but c'mon, 50shades is pretty different from Masters of the Universe...)

[(Anonymous)]

"There's a reason why the few fanwriters-turned-published-writers usually write stuff that feels derivative and is worse than their own worse fanfic."

My guess is that you have no idea how many famous writers today dabbled or started in fanfiction in the past. Did you know Lois McMaster Bujold wrote Star Trek fanfic before she became a bestselling sci-fi/fantasy author? I guarantee you she's not the only one, but people who did fandom old school didn't have the internet to immortalize their work.

If you base all your knowledge off a handful of infamous examples like Cassandra Clare and E.L. James, then at least understand you haven't even begun to skim the surface of writers with a fanfic past, and that those people are infamous because of their bad writing, so your sampling is biased.