[ SECRET POST #3303 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3303 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[sarillia]

I agree that people get way too dramatic about spoilers sometimes, but I don't quite get the point of the time limit that people put on spoiler warnings. People talk about it like it's common sense but I just realized that I don't actually know the reasoning behind it.

[kaijinscendre]

Use common sense, I guess. If a movie/show/book/game has been out for a year, then it is on you to protect yourself from spoilers.

People have tried to make universally acknowledged times. Usually like a two weeks post new episode. A month for a new movie.

[sarillia]

You haven't answered my question. What's the reasoning behind there being a time limit at all?

I'm not even arguing that there shouldn't be (I don't care about spoilers at all; tell me every twist in every movie I ever see from now on and I wouldn't care), I just don't know why people act like it should be a given.

[kaijinscendre]

Because people should not have to worry about warning about something that may or may not be a spoiler from something that ended years ago.

I have no idea when this super strict spoiler culture came from. Is it because of The Sixth Sense? I bet that is what is it from.

[sarillia]

Some people blame Psycho. I've heard that people weren't allowed to come into showings late and for the first time were explicitly discouraged from talking about the twists to people who hadn't seen it. Though I've seen a some quick pleas to keep the ending to yourself on some older movies too, like Witness for the Prosecution.

I'd say it probably got worse with the rise of the internet because it was suddenly so much easier to stumble across something you didn't want to know and it wasn't like with a group of friends where you could ask them to not talk about it around you because "around you" or not doesn't work that way on the internet.

[thezmage]

Basically, you give people a reasonable amount of time to see/experience the work in question if they want to. Not everyone can get out to a movie opening weekend, and most people see movies on weekends, so you give a certain number of weekends to see the movie. Not as many people are seeing tv shows live these days, but will usually, if they particularly care) see it within the week, so I consider a week to be reasonable for most shows on broadcast television, but a longer time for shows like Dexter that, due to difficulties in getting HBO or the long form storytelling that such shows work better in, large numbers of people wait for the DVD on. For books and videogames, getting the product should be easy, but there's typically a longer time to finish those products, so more than a month (again, depending on the game) is more reasonable.

The reasonable standard is: don't be a dick. If you know someone hasn't seen it, don't mention spoilers without permission. If you think it'll be looked at by a significant volume of people who haven't gotten there yet but not due to a lack of caring, don't give a spoiler. At this point, I think Dexter spoilers are totally fair game. A significant amount of time has passed for the people who really care to see it.

[sarillia]

I don't see how it follows that someone who hasn't watched something within that time period doesn't really care. What if they just hadn't heard of it before or hadn't heard about the specific aspects of it that turn it from something they've vaguely heard of to something they actually want to see?

[(Anonymous)]

Because once something as easily accessible as a TV show is years old, it has become part of pop culture and the background of that fandom. As such, if someone has just joined the party and doesn't want to know what the rest of fandom takes for granted, the onus is on them to avoid spoilers until they catch up. Only an extremely entitled person would expect everyone around them to clear it with them first before talking about something that happened on a decade-old TV series that's been off the air since 2013. Instead of that person throwing a temper tantrum, it would have made more sense for them to scroll down, see the giant picture of Dexter, and not read the much smaller text above it *or* maybe even say to themselves, "Gee, I'm so into Dexter right now that I would fly into a screaming fit if I found out that anyone in this show about torture and murder died. Maybe I should avoid places on the internet that largely cater to people who like to obsess over nitpicky details on various fannish media until I've watched a few more seasons."

[diet_poison]

not all TV shows become a part of pop culture. Come on.

[thezmage]

Neither or those two variables are worth accounting for. It is literally impossible for someone to care about something they don't know about, and if they hadn't heard about the specific thing that makes them care, then the problem is too few spoilers, not too many.

Literally, you just listed two circumstances in which increased conversation and, thus, spoilers are called for