[ SECRET POST #3304 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3304 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Law & Order SVU]


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03.
[Leonardo DiCaprio]


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04.
(Penny Dreadful: Caliban/John Clare)


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[Star Wars]


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[Kumail Nanjiani, The X-Files]


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[Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem]


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[Love Live!]


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[Severus Snape and the Marauders]


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[Sherlock Holmes]


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[Making a Murderer, Dean Strang and Jerry Buting]


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[Colony]















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Comments

[philstar22]

No I hadn't heard of that one. But I've heard of similar cases. It happens. Because prosecutors have decided that rather than being about the job, their job is about winning. No. The defense attorney's job is to represent their client. Your job is to represent the state, and the state's interest is in the truth. Maybe that's a conviction, maybe it isn't.

Ugh. I have so many thoughts on prosecutors in general and the whole culture. I wanted to be one for a long time until I realized I could never be a part of that and wasn't the type of person who could buck the system in the way that a good prosecutor should. It is a job. Someone has to do it. Some people do belong in prison. But the way it is done a lot of the time today is just so awful.

[(Anonymous)]

So agreed on your first paragraph in particular. I've heard about that sort of railroading happening a LOT in cases involving children being killed or serial killers roaming about. Obviously, I understand people being scared to know there's a killer like that in their town, and I also understand that law enforcement is under lots of pressure in those situations to catch the killer. And sometimes, depending on the situation, prosecutors don't always have a lot of obvious evidence to work with to build a case, too.

But unfortunately, a lot of people forget that solving a case often takes a LOT of time. It isn't like the crime dramas, where everything's solved in a day or so. And it's especially important in these situations that law enforcement catches the right person, or prosecutors have a strong enough case to prove this is indeed the person who's guilty.

Because if they don't, then an innocent person has been accused/convicted of a heinous crime and the person who IS actually responsible for the crime is still out there and continuing to kill people. Doesn't exactly scream "winning" to me.

[philstar22]

When you learn about the system, you start to realize how fucked up it is. For starters, so many cases, even ones prosecutors would never be able to prove in court, end up settled. Because prosecutors scare defendants, even ones who may be innocent, with higher than necessary charges and threats and then offer settlements. So you have people settling cases where they aren't even guilty.

Really, there are so many problems with the system as it is set up now. And that is even more true in more Conservative states and/or states where judges are elected. In many southern states Judges consider themselves colleagues with prosecutors and favor them. And judges who are elected feel the need to be "tough on crime." So prosecutors have it easier from the get-go often.

[(Anonymous)]

That doesn't surprise me, sadly. They, and police officers, definitely know how to intimidate people. And ugh, yes, the "tough on crime" people. They definitely don't help matters, either.

I also can't stand the prosecutors who create such flamboyant, dramatic presentations of their cases in the courtroom. I've seen a few of those on some true crime stories, too, and they drive me nuts. They practically act out the crime the way they imagine it happened, they make intense accusations towards the defendant, pointing at them, they get up in the jury's faces, etc. It's like, hi, you're not auditioning for a role on a TV series, you're here to prove a case. Quit making it all about you.

To say nothing of the emotional manipulation some people have pulled out, too.

[(Anonymous)]

I would argue that it's not just the personal decision of the prosecutors, but the structure of career, political, financial, etc incentives that we've built around our legal system

like, the behavior is the logical outcome of the system. it's almost inevitable that it would function like this.

[philstar22]

Oh, I completely agree with that. Although, the problem is that prosecution is different. Some of those setups are fine in other areas of the law. We want attorneys to want to win most of the time. Defense attorneys should represent their clients to the best of their ability. The problem is that the system has forgotten that there should be differences and sets up the incentives the same for prosecutors. They advance in their career based on the number of cases they win. That's not the way it should work for prosecutors.