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⌈ Secret Post #3307 ⌋

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Comments

Re: EU Migrant Crisis Rant

[(Anonymous)]

C'est la vie. In these situations, historical example and an understanding of humanity is the only sensible basis for decision making, not instinct - which you seem to think is the only alternative to statistics-based decision making.

In these situations, solid evidence in the way you mean it isn't avaialble for a long, long time, long after all is said and done. Partial evidence maybe. But that still has to be patched together by somebody who understands humanity.

"I'm not sure it should be carried out under the assumption that immigrant men are slavering rapists just waiting to attack women. "

Not once have I said that they are. What I have said is that there is a cultural clash here, and that there is extensive documentation online that sexual harrassment and street harrassment are extensive problems in many of the countries of migrants origins.

This has now extended to Europe - correlated to migrants and evidenced in emerging sexual harrassment crime statistics. Clearly there is a problem here and it needs dealing with. Quickly.

Re: EU Migrant Crisis Rant

[(Anonymous)]

+10000 to everything you're saying in this thread. So much of the problem here seems to be that instead of paying attention to what you're actually saying, the person/people you're arguing with are only hearing their own presumption of what you really mean. And there's a kind of paranoia at work that causes people to presume that what you really mean is the worst possible thing they've heard anyone say that sounds remotely similar to what you're actually saying.

So "there is a cultural clash here, and that there is extensive documentation online that sexual harrassment and street harrassment are extensive problems in many of the countries of migrants origins" becomes "immigrant men are slavering rapists just waiting to attack women."

You're seeing the shades of grey, and attempting to navigate them, while others are defaulting almost instantaneously to a need for black and white. The thing I've been struggling to understand is why this is happening. Is everyone so terrified of being thought racist that they won't even look directly at the issue?

Re: EU Migrant Crisis Rant

[(Anonymous)]

"Is everyone so terrified of being thought racist that they won't even look directly at the issue? "

Yes.

Re: EU Migrant Crisis Rant

[(Anonymous)]

Is everyone so terrified of being thought racist that they won't even look directly at the issue?

I think yes. Weren't there news reports that the police initially suppressed the reports because they didn't want to fan anti-immigrant sentiment?

Re: EU Migrant Crisis Rant

[(Anonymous)]

more like the only people who ever bring up this argument are looking for thinly-veiled excuses for their already racist beliefs