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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-01-23 03:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #3307 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3307 ⌋

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Re: Let's talk about MASS EFFECT!!!!!

(Anonymous) 2016-01-24 05:01 am (UTC)(link)
Ehhhhhh, I didn't like Destroy either, but Synthesis was just flat-out fucked up. You forced a complete physical overhaul onto literally every living creature in the galaxy, with zero consent, based on the word of some entity you'd literally just met. I didn't trust the StarChild, I'd been given no reason to. Up until that point, everything had pointed to "destroy reapers -> peaceful galaxy", there's no reason to flip your thinking on it in less than five minutes.

All three endings were terrible, because of that nonsense deus-ex-machina creature. The appropriate ending was Shepard sitting with Anderson, watching the victory you'd ensured for the galaxy, and dying beside him.

Re: Let's talk about MASS EFFECT!!!!!

(Anonymous) 2016-01-24 05:27 am (UTC)(link)
Oh yes, none of them were set up particularly well. I still think I like what synthesis represents more than synthesis itself - there could easily have been a "peace" option that ended in something resembling synthesis generations down the line, not the weird deus ex machina that we got. Thematically it's still the most appropriate, which is why the execution is so weird and frustrating. Don't even get me started on Control and how dumb it is (oh sure, with the Illusive Man it's proof he's crazy and evil, but it's okay when WE do it!)

But it's still better than destroy. That's how much I hated destroy. :I

Re: Let's talk about MASS EFFECT!!!!!

(Anonymous) 2016-01-24 05:54 am (UTC)(link)
DA

It kind of feels to me like the whole 'btw it'll also kill EDI and the geth' thing was kind of chucked in last minute because the writers looked at their test audiences and realized that almost no one was going to choose either of the other options. Especially since they swore up and down that no, none of the choices destroy the mass relays (unless you have approximately 0 war assets and then you can only choose Destroy and it blows up everything), which are...also Reaper tech. AKA the entire reason Destroy is supposed to nuke your synthetic buddies. Okay then.

The way you feel about Control is how I feel about Synthesis (and also Control), though - Saren attempted to integrate with the Reapers in order to make sure at least some of the galaxy survived. It was proof that he was crazy and Indoctrinated and evil...but if we do it, it's okay and everything works out? What the shit?

Re: Let's talk about MASS EFFECT!!!!!

(Anonymous) 2016-01-24 05:56 am (UTC)(link)
It didn't feel like it to me. I mean, by that logic, Legion was chucked into 2 last minute because he changed the information about the Geth so drastically.

Re: Let's talk about MASS EFFECT!!!!!

(Anonymous) 2016-01-24 06:08 am (UTC)(link)
You met Legion at the midpoint of a three-part trilogy, and the new information he brings plays a significant role in the third game, regardless of whether you keep him or ship him off to be experimented on by Cerberus.

That's a bit different than something that comes up amidst a storm of nonsense in the last five minutes of the trilogy.

Re: Let's talk about MASS EFFECT!!!!!

(Anonymous) 2016-01-24 06:08 am (UTC)(link)
To be fair, you then got a good long while to decide whether Legion was what he appeared to be or if it was a big stunt on the part of the Geth or what-have-you. You had no such time with the StarChild. It was just...oh hey literally everything you've been told so far is wrong and I'm totally right so listen to me! now please just roll with this staggering new information and decide the fate of the galaxy. :)

Re: Let's talk about MASS EFFECT!!!!!

(Anonymous) 2016-01-24 05:59 am (UTC)(link)
To be fair, the Mass Relays do stop working in the Destroy ending. They don't blow up, but they're also effectively nuked in the sense that, IIRC, they stop functioning entirely.

Re: Let's talk about MASS EFFECT!!!!!

(Anonymous) 2016-01-24 06:14 am (UTC)(link)
No, they're not - in all of the endings, they're damaged but can be repaired. They're only rendered completely nonfunctional if they explode in the low war asset ending.

Re: Let's talk about MASS EFFECT!!!!!

(Anonymous) 2016-01-24 05:55 am (UTC)(link)
Eh, I don't agree with that last bit. Nothing ever pointed directly to that, and the games had previously already introduced us to the idea that you don't always have complete information. See: Legion. Why would you take his word and welcome him onto the crew when ALL of your experiences with the Geth so far have been negative? Yes, he saved you once, but he could easily be trying to trick you.

So the whole "BTW your option to destroy the Reapers isn't going to just destroy them" isn't too surprising to me. The entire point of the ending was to make you think instead of blindly choosing the "LOL KILL THEM ALL" option. You have to weight the information you're given. You have to decide what you think would be best.

None of them are perfect, no, but I figured that was done on purpose. You basically have to have faith that your ending will turn out for the better. At least in Synthesis, it's only an option because the universe is actually prepared for it (keep in mind that most species have some degree of biotics already and were well on their way to Synthesis as they were).

Re: Let's talk about MASS EFFECT!!!!!

[personal profile] dratinis 2016-01-24 04:05 pm (UTC)(link)
keep in mind that most species have some degree of biotics already and were well on their way to Synthesis as they were

Stupid question, but is that what Starbrat meant when he said that other cycles weren't ready? That they didn't have enough biotics or tech??