[ SECRET POST #3311 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3311 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

The only times we ever see James Potter with his family (and other people he loves, his friends), he's nothing but caring and supportive.

His friends? You mean the Marauders, who helped bully Snape and tried to get him killed?

Also... we mainly just heard about him through recollections of others and people tend to romanticize the dead. The one time we actually SAW him through objective memory (keep in mind the Pensieve shows things as they occurred) he was getting off on tormenting someone.

[(Anonymous)]

We all miss Alan Rickman, and I get that his Stern Voice did things to you on a deep level for ten years, but you're embarrassing yourself here. Those of us who read the books without one hand down our panties are feeling bad for you.

[(Anonymous)]

I recognized that James was an asshole years before liking Snape.

[(Anonymous)]

That and they've projected themselves onto Snape and the people who bullied them in school on James.

[(Anonymous)]

Nope. Wasn't bullied myself, but I still think bullies in general are assholes.

[(Anonymous)]

If you went through the American school system and you weren't bullied, you WERE the bully.

[(Anonymous)]

Nope. I was mainly an introvert and there were only a few bullies at school and they went after a few specific kids who were outcasts.

[(Anonymous)]

maybe your school experience isn't the model for literally all school experiences ever

just a thought

[(Anonymous)]

Usually both, to be honest. Most bullies give other people a hard time because that's how they're treated themselves so they think it's normal.

[diet_poison]

this is a really silly comment

not everyone had the same experiences

[(Anonymous)]

"before liking Snape". Oh. k

[philstar22]

But only children bullies. Adult bullies are okay and their behavior should be justified. I was bullied by both, and you've got that completely backwards. Teenagers are Teenagers. Bullying is awful, but they generally do grow out of it. Adults who bully children are a whole lot worse, and being bullied themselves as a child is not an excuse. James was a bully. He treated Snape awfully. Then he grew up. Snape never grew up and decided as an adult that he was going to bully children. That's a lot worse.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt
So glad I finally get the chance to say this, but you are wrong on the internet. We have Lily's letter in DH, which details a deep caring for James that's reflected by his own concern for her (that bit where she mentions James trying not to show his frustration with being hidden away). We have the snippet where Voldemort sees James playing with baby Harry. We even have ghost!James in GoF telling Harry how to get away from Voldemort while the other ghosts distract him. We have both Remus and Sirius's affirmation that they considered James to be the best friend ever. And it was only Sirius who tried to get Snape killed, not all of them.

I mean I'm sorry you missed all that but you are actually wrong here.

[(Anonymous)]

That's one of the cool differences between fiction and reality though! Unlike real people, fictional characters aren't secretly something other than what we're shown and told there in canon. The characters' final word on James is all we have, and if he were really still a terrible person outside of his friends' rose-colored perception of him, there would be something in the text letting us know that.

[(Anonymous)]

So let me get this straight... Harry is lead to believe for the first five books that his father is an all-around swell guy, a perfect person, etc...

...and then he sees his father via another person's memory tormenting someone...and it's enough to make Harry question what he was told.

If Rowling didn't want us to rethink our opinions on James she wouldn't have written it the way she did.

[(Anonymous)]

It's enough to make Harry think James isn't a perfect golden swell guy, it's not enough to make him (or us readers) think James is Satan 2.0

[(Anonymous)]

FFS Harry was concerned that James bewitched Lily into falling in love with him. It clearly shook him up.

[(Anonymous)]

He had the same reaction with Dumbledore in book 7, but he realizes that was a mistake, too.

[(Anonymous)]

That was because a lot of what was said about Dumbledore was false or unclear.

That wasn't the case with James.

[(Anonymous)]

There was one memory of James that Harry felt put him in a bad light. Once his friends explained a bit more to Harry, Harry believed them and calmed down, even smiled at something Ron did that reminded him of James in the Pensieve. I think that's rather telling of what JKR wanted readers to take from the memory, that James clearly wasn't perfect, but he wasn't terrible either.