[ SECRET POST #3312 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3312 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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12. http://i.imgur.com/v42amcn.png
[link for anime porn ... type stuff? I'm not even sure what's going on here]















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Comments

[fscom]

01. https://56.media.tumblr.com/25b1398aba111869308c89122446282a/tumblr_o1daiwQVnY1sivacmo1_400.png

[morieris]

Hey, Redwall!

From what I remember...yeah, Bryony's 'he was always going to be evil despite saving me' was kind of weird.

[(Anonymous)]

Romsca was a hero, and she was a ferret.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh my gosh I need to re-read Pearls of Lutra. Granted it's been like 20 years, but I didn't even remember this character.

Why I gave up on Brian Jacques

[feotakahari]

"I have no empty heroes. My goodies are good, and my baddies are bad. There are no schizophrenic goodies or sympathetic baddies. And children like it that way; it's not confusing. And they want the goodies to defeat the baddies."

See also: http://www.somethingawful.com/news/bargain-book-bin-3/

Re: Why I gave up on Brian Jacques

[(Anonymous)]

Despite that claim, there were a few redeemed characters: the aforementioned Romsca, and a rat whose name I forgot.

Re: Why I gave up on Brian Jacques

[morieris]

blaggut, I think. From ... Salamandastron?

Re: Why I gave up on Brian Jacques

[(Anonymous)]

Close, Blaggut was from The Bellmaker.

Re: Why I gave up on Brian Jacques

[(Anonymous)]

I haven't read a Redwall book in years, but that Something Awful article speaks to my soul.

Re: Why I gave up on Brian Jacques

[dinogrrl]

Children can get bored with black-and-white though 8| that's what happened with me. It always irritates me when people look down on children like they can't handle stuff like that.
Love the books, love the world, but they got SO REPETITIVE and PREDICTABLE. It's one of those series that I really wanted to read all the books, and I was so close to doing just that, but I finally just threw my hands up and quit out of frustration.

Back to the original secret, it's been a really long time since I read the series but yeah I do remember that one in particular irking me for those exact reasons.

Re: Why I gave up on Brian Jacques

[(Anonymous)]

He wrote in a time before all these progressive stories started becoming popular and his were basically like folk tales. So it makes sense to me. People really aught to write AU's they want if that is the case.

Re: Why I gave up on Brian Jacques

[(Anonymous)]

He's really underestimating kids here. I mean as a kid I really felt for Veil so I ended up hating The Outcast of Redwall

[iceyred]

I think his book was what made me finally quit that series.

[(Anonymous)]

Did you read pearls of lutra?

(frozen comment)

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think it actually knows how to read, so probably not.

[iceyred]

I just googled it and the plot doesn't ring a bell.

It wasn't just the weird 'All x creatures are bad and all y creatures are good' nonsense that drove me away from the books. The very repetitive plots didn't help either.

[morieris]

It got better with The Sable Quean, but I understand that criticism. That's why Lord Brocktree and that one are my favorites.

[(Anonymous)]

Chupacabra?

[(Anonymous)]

In fairness, more nuanced portrayals of Klingons exist in later Star Trek (and Worf is a sympathetic Klingon, even if he was raised by humans) and orcs were deliberately created by to be evil.

[(Anonymous)]

Is this secret a repeat? Swear I've responded to it before.

But anyway, yeah. That was so frustrating, mostly because I love ferrets and rats. In that book in particular, I seem to remember the ferret in question sacrificing himself to save someone's life, only for them to claim he didn't mean to and was still bad. Wtf.

[(Anonymous)]

Someone wrote a similar one a year or two ago, but it wasn't this exact secret. I think this came about because there have been talks of redeeming bad guys in new stories.

[(Anonymous)]

I love this secret, this is by far one of my favorite of the Redwall books.

Well the thing is he was kind of bad, but that doesn't mean he didn't have good connections with good people. It was trying to illustrate that people are more nuanced and complex than that.

I do sort of wish that he had been allowed to live at Redwall. He would have made such an interesting ally. I've only written one fanfic, but now I kind of want to write an AU too XD

[caerbannog]

Yeah I stopped reading it because the black and white/good and bad species was slowly driving my little child brain nuts.