[ SECRET POST #3312 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3312 ⌋

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12. http://i.imgur.com/v42amcn.png
[link for anime porn ... type stuff? I'm not even sure what's going on here]















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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

But it's not incorrect to say 'cool motive, still murder'. it's entirely correct. and even compatible with a more involved discussion about the motives.

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[(Anonymous)]

It's not "Cool Motive, Still Murder" itself that annoys me - it's that sometimes people do use it to shut down a more nuanced argument. It does have its place, and I do agree that it can be used in more involved discussions about motives.

[sarillia]

It's true but it's not always relevant if the person being replied to never actually claimed it wasn't murder and in that case it shows the person who said it isn't really listening.

[(Anonymous)]

I hate it because it's unnecessary and patronizing. It's like giving a "friendly reminder" that the character is a murderer. Yeah no, we know they're a murderer, that's exactly why we're talking about their motive!

[(Anonymous)]

I agree. I wouldn't say that phrase if so many people who defended villains tried to argue that they 'didn't actually do x thing"

ex: the Snape argument yesterday with people claiming that the idea that Snape was a bully was just silly tumblr bullshit flavor of the month (When JKR confirmed it herself) or he wasn't THAT bad whereas James picking on Snape was some indicator that he was going to be horrible in EVERY OTHER ASPECT of his life.

Sorry but some people need to be reminded "cool motive, still murder" when they're acting like what their character did was somehow different.

[philstar22]

Plenty of people do woobify villains. But some people take the criticism too far and, as the secret talks about, use this phrase to shut down all discussions of villains. There are plenty of fans who know villains are evil but see nuance and want to talk about it. That is not the same as woobifying.