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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-01-28 06:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #3312 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3312 ⌋

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12. http://i.imgur.com/v42amcn.png
[link for anime porn ... type stuff? I'm not even sure what's going on here]















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(Anonymous) 2016-01-29 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

I totally agree that it's of their own making. The cause of the problem isn't really at issue. If someone is sinking $100 million into a game, a firm belief is never going to trump a misguided focus group, even if that focus group is the product of twenty years of gaming advertising aimed to condition a particular response.

It's a bad outcome all around; it leads to every kind of inequality in casting and characters, it stifles creativity and encourages bad design. It's even worse in films, when they've even given up on making new plots, and subsist near-entirely on remakes and sequels. None of this is good, but it's helpful to understand why it happens.
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[personal profile] ypsilon42 2016-01-29 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
I understand why it happens. But, I think that is also why it frustrates me so much? Like, I understand that the male dominated culture in gaming is mostly artificially created by developers and advertising. But then women ask for games to be more inclusive and developers will tell them, that it is just not possible because of the market or maybe just because women are too hard to animate and then they turn around and continue to perpetuate that same culture that prevents that market from developing.

And while I am willing to admit that it would be impossible to change the market over the course of one single season, I think it would easily be possible for them to do more (like offering a female option in more games or not having chain mail bikinis) without risking bankruptcy.

Plus, if you look at the specific discussion of games you often see that the developers themselves don't see how artificial the market really is and/or how their personal conservatism drives their decision. And at least imo part of the change is totally prevented by this instead of actual business decisions. (Not a gaming example but from the top of my head there is the entire action figure debacle concerning Black Widow and Rey.)
Edited (originally wrote exclusive instead of inclusive) 2016-01-29 03:16 (UTC)