[ SECRET POST #3312 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3312 ⌋

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[link for anime porn ... type stuff? I'm not even sure what's going on here]















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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

This just baffles me because especially in Superhero genre, the superhero creating their villains is kind of the whole point. The villains wouldn't exist most of the time if the superhero hadn't caused them to turn to villainy. And if it's not that, there generally is a villain creation scene.

I know the idea has come up multiple times that Joker only does what he does because of Batman.

Two-Face is only Two-Face because of the acid to the face.

While Poison Ivy is an environmental terrorist in TAS, most other origins have her being hurt by a man and that's what turns her.

So why are people saying that discussion of this trope isn't possible? Heck, I saw people doing big write ups that men tend to have bad things happen to the people around them (parents die, wife and daughter die, wife frozen, daughter boarded a space pod and went through a portal and was lost, brother dies, etc.) but women tend to have things happen directly to them. (They're hurt, they're transformed against their will, they're raped, someone tries to kill them, etc.) and that was one of the subconscious kneejerk reactions against Rey, we never see her personally getting hurt so why would she be willing to become a hero for the Resistance? Just because people around her are? Megamind's whole movie was that when bad things happen to him he reacted as a villain, but when bad things happened to others he became a hero. (Interestingly enough, Snape follows that pattern too. When bad things happen to him he's a villain, when bad things happen to others he's a hero.)



And that's even the core of Hero/Villain! That's why they're two sides of the same coin. Bad things happen and heroes react by becoming better, villains react by becoming worse. To try to dismiss that with "Cool motive, still murder" is the same as insisting that we can't discuss how Tony Stark gets his arc reactor in the movies because "Cool motive, still heroic murder"