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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-01-30 03:26 pm

[ SECRET POST #3314 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3314 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2016-01-30 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with this. Though, I also feel like the "cocky ace" female character is ineffective when they feel unrealistically badass for the sake of being sexy to a male love interest. Sort of like, they do superficially badass things, but are wearing tight leather and heels the entire time, don't come across as realistically capable, and aren't actually involved in any serious "fights" or what have you (unless, as you said, they are defeated and need a male character to rescue them). I hate superficially badass female characters.

Starbuck definitely is the real deal though.
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[personal profile] ariakas 2016-01-30 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep. In so much of what I read/watch (sci-fi, shounen) the author tries to have his cake and eat it too by telling us that his protagonist's love interest is "badass" but by showing us she isn't, by having her constantly in need of rescue, only winning fights against minor brainless badguys but failing pathetically against the named characters, etc. His intent is stroke his/his readers' egos even more by having a "tough" girl need the MC's help, but all it comes across as is that she's not that tough at all. She's an Empowered Woman! (But still sexy.) She fights! (But still gets damseled.) Etc.

It's the Stormtrooper effect: no, no one believes that they're good shots, no matter what you put in the dialogue. We can plainly see they're not. And no, no one believes that your heroine is a kickass, competent fighter when we can plainly see she's not.

But yep, Starbuck's the real deal. BSG showed us that through actions from episode one.

(Anonymous) 2016-01-31 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
OMG all of this. Superficially badass female characters are the worst possible thing.

True badass female characters are the best. The "cocky ace" type (though rare), is super cute.