[ SECRET POST #3314 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3314 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Fuck off.

What about people whose publishers tell them to take down their fic, or stuff they said or did in the past that they don't want linked to them now for reasons that have less to do with fanfiction and more with the topics of some of their writing.

It's not all about you.

People aren't 'stepping all over you' by taking down their fic. They're doing it because their careers are futures are important to them. Sometimes having your fic up can jeopardize that.

Fuck off with your hypocritical talk of "community". Your idea of a 'community' sounds like a shitty one and I wouldn't want your support.

[(Anonymous)]

DA.


People aren't 'stepping all over you' by taking down their fic. They're doing it because their careers are futures are important to them. Sometimes having your fic up can jeopardize that.

So take them down. No one's stopping them. What I find shitty is when they take it a step further by stating their works can't be shared privately.


Fuck off with your hypocritical talk of "community". Your idea of a 'community' sounds like a shitty one and I wouldn't want your support.

Honestly, the post-OP's(?) idea of community is spot on. What more do you expect? Community members to smile as integral aspects of the community are ripped away? For them to support you even when you've made it impossible for said aspects to be shared privately?

I'm sorry, but you can eff off. What happens when authors take their works down and prevent them from being distributed all willy-nilly? Like the poster said, you get The Twilight Fandom(tm) which can barely be considered a community at all because there's nothing left of it. It's not a fandom or a community, it's just a stepping stone for authors who want to publish. Nothing in that fandom is tangible, nothing stays. The fans can't discuss fanwork with each other because all fan creators left and took their fanworks with them. Non-creative fans just reminisce about old fanworks, though most left because what's the point of staying when everything else is going? New fans don't stay long because there's nothing left, just dead links that go nowhere. It's a dead community.

When canon ends, fanwork is what keeps it alive (i.e., Harry Potter). It prompts new discussions, sparks new ideas, etc. Take fanwork away and tell me, what are you left with?

This might seem melodramatic to you, but I was in that fandom when it was popular and bustling with fans and witnessed it die a slow death not because the fans lost interest in the series/characters, because over the years bits and pieces of it kept being taken away. There used to be this pretty popular twific rec community that shut down not because new fanworks weren't being produced, but because the administrators were sick of having to re-edit their posts with "FIC DELETED," and there were a lot of them.

And new authors? Don't get the attention or enthusiasm they deserve because most fans have become apathetic. I know some who won't even show support because they know that the instant a work gains popularity and reaches star-status it's probably going to be turned into an original work. So what's the point?

There are measures that can be taken to prevent works being taken from the community. Even if authors have no other choice but to delete their works, they could at least allow it to be shared privately. But they choose not to.

NYART

[(Anonymous)]

What about people whose publishers tell them to take down their fic,

That is extenuating circumstances, and I definitely understand that. It's the "how dare you share this with others!" attitude towards private sharing. How will the big bad publisher know if people are e-mail circulating a story? Do you really think they'll track the e-mails of every single person who ever commented on a fic? And then how do they catch the people who have read the fic and downloaded a copy, but never left a footprint?

See how over-the-top that sounds? A publisher isn't going to care about private circulation. They have bigger fish to fry.

or stuff they said or did in the past that they don't want linked to them now for reasons that have less to do with fanfiction and more with the topics of some of their writing.

So personal regret trumps fandom history. Got it.

I mean, I have a fic out there I would love to just delete. It's crappy compared to the way I write now. It's unfinished, and currently dangling on a cliffhanger for more than a decade. But it was a trope starter in my fandom, and it still gets hits. I recognize it's a piece of fandom now. Like any work of art, once it's out in the public, it is NOT solely the author's anymore. It has a place in history, however small, and destroying that leaves the world a little poorer for the people for whom it was important.

/takes fanfic way too seriously, and knows it

Re: NYART

[(Anonymous)]

/takes fanfic way too seriously, and knows it

That's fine. You're not the only one. There are a lot of us.

I'm an author myself and I would never remove my fanfiction from the web. When I got to the point that I couldn't even think about my earliest fics without cringing I adopted a new username and cut all ties with the other one (I made a 'goodbye, fandom' post and everything). Only a handful of people know I used to be XXX, and only because I told them.

The fics I wrote back in the day still get an astonishing amount of hits, for whatever reason, and I'd feel like the biggest asshole if I deleted them. I understand what it feels like to see a fic being praised to high heaven, to see it being glorified as if it were a friggin' holy artifact, and to feel awful regret because it's no longer available to read. You end up feeling like you missed out on something amazing, something important, and yeah, I could never do that to the fans/friends who've supported me for so many years.