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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-01-31 03:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #3315 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3315 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2016-01-31 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, there are certain thematic resonances going on there - with dwarves and Judaism particularly - but to describe it as a metaphor or anything beyond that general theme is just wrong

(Anonymous) 2016-01-31 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, I could see the argument that Tolkien took inspiration from various groups in England, because his world is so inspired by northern European history and such. But I have a hard time humoring the suggestion that the dwarves are literally meant to represent Jews, especially since Tolkien was a Norse scholar.

(Anonymous) 2016-02-01 06:48 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, here's the thing. People think the dwarves=Jews thing is because they're bearded and insular and greedy, so it's about negative stereotypes. And yes, to a certain degree that's true, but it's secondary.

People alive since 1948 forget that for thousands of years, the defining characteristic of the Jewish people was that they were everywhere, yet had no homeland. That was the #1 thing about them in people's minds.

So when Tolkien first introduced the dwarves in The Hobbit, he introduced them as a people who had had their ancestral home stolen from them, and ever since had wandered the world taking whatever jobs they could get to stay alive. They've become so scattered and lost that only a few of them can be rallied for a last desperate mission to take back their rightful home.

So that makes The Hobbit a pro-Zionist text, which is pretty cool.