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[ SECRET POST #3317 ]

⌈ Secret Post #3317 ⌋

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So I live in the area that got a ton of snow the weekend before last.

We made an effort to keep the sidewalk clear during the blizzard. Right after it, the street was covered in snow, but the sidewalk in front of our house was clear.

Then the snowplows came. Cleared the street and dumped a two-foot-high pile of snow onto our sidewalk. My mom just said she wasn't going to bother reclearing the sidewalk because it would be too hard now and she was too tired after all the shoveling of the previous days. And the street was cleared, so people could walk there.

Two days later the snow had started to melt, and out neighbor, who originally hadn't cleared his sidewalk either, shoveled both of ours "for exercise."

Today, we get a letter from the county complaining about the fact that we hadn't cleared our sidewalk.

Wow fuck that. THEY dumped two feet of snow on your sidewalk and they're mad you didn't pick it up? I hope nothing happened besides the letter. :/

How are snow plows supposed to NOT put snow at the side of the road, including sidewalks? Please explain that.

I...didn't say they weren't? Dang, you sound really defensive.

My point though is that if that's where they have to put snow the city shouldn't then turn around and get mad at people for not clearing it all away.

Uh, if you're required to clear the sidewalks, clear the sidewalks. Expecting pedestrians to circumvent your section of sidewalk by going on the road is dangerous, even if the roads are clear. That's why there are sidewalks--so people don't have to walk on the road.

And the county likely sent the letter because one of those pedestrians you forced to walk on the street complained about it and everything was probably reported and sent before your neighbour did the shovelling.

1. How do I shovel two feet of now-hardened and packed down snow? We kept the sidewalk clear the first time by consistently shoveling as the snow was coming down, so it didn't have time to pile up. I don't even think I have the physical strength to shovel the snow the plow dumped there.

2. Where do I put the snow, other than back into the street? It was already piled up at the edge of the yard.

3. I managed to walk on the street, to the side, so I wasn't in the way of any cars when I had to walk in the streets, which I usually did because hardly anyone managed to clear that pile away.

1. Hire someone to do it if you and/or your mother are unable to do it. And your neighbour managed.

2. Push the snow back at the edge of your yard--where did your neighbour shovel it? Put it in the same place. If you can't manage, pay someone. I'm sure there're kids around who'd do it for a few bucks.

3. Yeah, because old people and people with limited mobility will be able to walk safely on the street. And gee, if your neighbours had done their jobs, you wouldn't've had to walk on the street, would you?

I'm assuming your mother (or you?) owns the house. As a homeowner you have certain responsibilities and if it's required you clear the sidewalks, clear them. If you'd gone out shortly after they'd plowed, it would've been a bit easier to shovel. If it's hard and packed--make snow blocks (push the shovel into the snow on three sides and then slice off the top)--it's what I have to do when the plow fills in the ends of my driveway--often before I've even shovelled it once, so I've got the snow and the plowed snow.

My neighbor only started shoveling after the snow started melting.

Relax.

Spoken like someone who probably lives in south Florida.

I'm from the Midwest.

Sorry, but if you choose to walk in the middle of winter with heavy snowfall, you take your chances. Other people aren't obligated to throw out their backs just so you can set your dainty feet on clear pavement, Your Majesty.

Actually, they are. Property owners in most areas that see snow on the regular are required by law to have their sidewalks cleared within 24 hours of snowfall. If they're reported for noncompliance, at minimum they'll get a warning on first violation - like OP did - and then be fined for subsequent offences (including failing to clear the snowfall that prompted the warning). In a lot of places, they'll be fined for the first offence.

Incidentally, the property owner can be held liable if a pedestrian injures themself on the uncleared sidewalk, so not clearing it is doubly stupid.

It's not about "setting your dainty feet on clear pavement," it's about keeping the city safe to for everyone to navigate, which depends on everyone's participation to work. We don't all have the luxury of going from a heated garage with an automatic door opener to a covered parking lot and back again--or the luxury of being shut-ins.

Fuck you. I got hit with a bunch of snow as well. We shoveled it and then the snowplows came and dumped it close to our curb, covering the drains in the street (which could lead to overflows/floods when it rains). The Department of Sanitation workers do not care where they dump the snow, just that they do their jobs!

One time I was visiting my parents for Christmas and there was a blizzard. I moved my car off the street and squeezed it into the narrow space between their garage and the alley so I wouldn't be ticketed for leaving it on the street in the way of the plow. The plow passed by and I went to move my car back to the street so it wasn't blocking the garage. As I was getting out, a guy in a city truck stopped and told me they were coming along ticketing cars and I better move my car quick. I told him I had already moved it and was now moving it back after the plow had passed and it obviously wasn't plowed-in. He just shrugged and said I might get a ticket anyway so I should move it. So I had to squeeze it back by the garage again and wait a bit longer and hope it was safe by then. I get that you can't ticket first, because then you're either holding up the plow or not giving people a chance to move their cars. Still, I moved my car for the plow, I shouldn't be ticketed for moving it back right away! What if I had been driving somewhere and had only just got back?

I live at the corner of a street, so every time the snowplow comes down the street, I get a huge pile of snow dumped at the foot of my driveway. (And I live in Western NY, so this happens frequently.) Once I was almost finished shoveling and was standing there when the snowplow dumped it literally right at my feet. It is really annoying, and I feel you about that, but it can be dug out (an ice chopper is really helpful for that) and needs to be dug out. It's not safe to have the sidewalks covered. You're lucky you only got a letter. They fine people here for not shoveling sidewalks.

Exactly. Being plowed in happens everywhere, it doesn't change the fact that everybody needs to clear the snow--including the snow the City dumps there--off their sidewalks, and the OP sounds ridiculously whiny about a duty that everybody else has too.

Wow I don't live in a place where it snows but here the sidewalk is considered public property, therefore the state had to take care of any problems with it. It's the reason why homeless people can technically camp out there temporarily. It is interesting that they make people shovel snow themselves rather than hire someone to do it for everyone. It sounds like a long standing tradition though.

I feel like this is how it should be. If people are allowed to use the sidewalk in front of someone's property then the property owner shouldn't be responsible for maintaining it.

Chances are one of your shitty neighbors ratted you out, you know. It's not like there's a Sidewalk Police who goes around monitoring that.

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