[ SECRET POST #3320 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3320 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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(Rick and Morty)


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03. http://i.imgur.com/u0ymbUk.gifv
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05.
[Steven Universe]


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06.
[Hanna Barbera Comics Reboot]


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08.
[The Flash]


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[Renaud]


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[The Shannara Chronicles]


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11. [SPOILERS for Game of Thrones]





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12. [WARNING for incest / underage]






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13. [WARNING for rape]



[Okane Ga Nai]


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14. [WARNING for rape]



[Hockey RPF]


















Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #474.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

No. The seme goes to the trans woman character to ask for help in relating to the uke and the trans woman gives him the book "how to care for small animals" as a joke. He reads it seriously because the seme has no social skills whatsoever and tries to treat the uke like a small animal but keeps scaring him instead.

In the end, he gives up and leaves the book with cute animal pictures on the table, the uke finds it and adores the book, and the seme is frustrated and doesn't get what he's doing wrong. End fluffy domestic joke.

[(Anonymous)]

^ SA

I first read OGN when I was 20-ish years old and had read a lot of yaoi, so I think I picked up on a whole lot of the times the series legit made fun of itself and its tropes that I think a lot of readers who picked it up at 13-14 didn't.

[(Anonymous)]

Well...that's basically what I said though? I forgot that the okama gave him the book as a joke, but it's still pretty much forced domesticity between rapes. I remember the uke cutting his finger on a knife or glass or something too and they have a ~heartwarming~ finger bandaging scene. Just lots of forced "I technically raped you, yes, but I do tiny, human things for you too so this negates my monstrous violation of your body!" type stuff.

[(Anonymous)]

No, the point of that joke was for the world and authors to make fun of the seme's total lack of social skills. It's not like rape is portrayed as love there or that the seme is portrayed as dashing and sexy. He's an emotional idiot and that domestic joke storyline was one of the ones where it was really clear the authors were aware of the tropes they were using and parodying them by taking them to an extreme.

It's a surprisingly self-aware series. It knows what it is and laughs at itself more than you'd think.

[(Anonymous)]

NA

Somehow I don't remember this series being nearly as self-aware as you seem to think it was. I'm with AYRT, I remember it being pretty indulgent. In the end, the seme still gets rewarded for terrible behaviour too, so I don't think it had a handle on being a 'parody' of any kind either.

[(Anonymous)]

Don't get me wrong I'm not saying it's a full parody. I'm saying it's more aware than people give it credit for, which is true since people think it's not aware at all and think everything in it is played straight. It's not.

For other examples, OGN more than once interrupts its own dramatic scenes to take the uke to the humorous extreme of pure innocence by having him stand up heroically... and blurt something completely stupid and naive that is in-world portrayed as stupid and naive that everyone else is WTF? at.

It's much, much less srsbsns than, for example, Viewfinder. It's not a parody of the series but it's not above laughing at itself between the drama.

[(Anonymous)]

^ SA

They also have the trans woman character lampshade the fact that semes are considered "straight" by pointing out in-world that the seme considers himself straight because he's seme and masculine even though he's fucking men... there's a lot of tropes that get lampshaded and taken to extremes in it. It's not by accident.

[(Anonymous)]

Read a better translation

[bio_obscura]

The small-animal book thing doesn't sound like a self-aware joke. It sounds like extreme infantalization/woobifying of the uke (he's as delicate as a soft small bunny!!), which is typical of most yaoi.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

I can tell you haven't read the manga.

The joke was pretty clear to me. Kanou does the woobification thing at Ayase and then it fails because Ayase isn't a small animal and treating him like one doesn't work. That's the whole point.

The story is pointing out that all Kanou had to do was find out what Ayase actually likes, like books with cute animals in them, to make him happy. But Kanou is dumb enough to assume there are Rules and How Ukes Should Act and stuff like that, and he's wrong. He's pointedly wrong and the audience is supposed to laugh at him for not getting it.

[bio_obscura]

I never claimed to have read it, it's just that this doesn't sound like an example of being self-aware or challenging yaoi tropes. It just sounds like "Haha the uke is a sweet and beautiful mystery of pure innocence that the seme will never be able to fathom" which is pretty standard.

Self-aware would be like... the seme giving him a book about small animals and the uke using the info he found in the book to go hunt and kill a small animal and cook it for dinner.

This is a lot of arguing for a manga I've never read. I admit I"m feeling contrarian. I'm kinda curious to read some of this and see if I see the self-awareness you did.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Trust me, there is no self-awareness to be found. This anon is reaching absolutely into the stratosphere to try and justify this book as having some mythical "self awareness" that it doesn't. Ayase is your typical dumb uke. Kaoru is your typical "rape is love and I'm rewarded for it" seme. There is no ~self-parodying~ at all. It's played straight in the series, not as a "wink wink nod nod" to viewers/readers/etc. It's a piece of shit. If you happen to like that piece of shit? Fine. But own up to it being horrible. I like plenty of dumb, stupid shit myself but I'm not going to fart on you and call it perfume either.