[ SECRET POST #422 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #422 ⌋

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Comments

Re: 12.

[kenboy.livejournal.com]

What's confusing about it? If you say you're English, people know you live in England, which I'm pretty sure they recognize as part of Great Britain.

Which I didn't realize no longer exists?

Anyway, look, here's the thing: I can't tell if this is a serious thing, like calling an Asian person "Oriental," which everyone should know is a bad thing, or if this is some weird fringe thing, like "Womyn," or if it's some weird thing verging on racism, like "Ew, don't call me British, people will think I'm Welsh or Irish or something while I'm really pure-bred Manchester royalty," or, look, I'm just going to back the hell away now, because I have a bad feeling the crazy might be contagious. Good luck on your quest.

Re: 12.

[case]

Wait, "Oriental" is derogatory now? wtf fdhkjfhf

Re: 12.

[(Anonymous)]

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/oriental

American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source - Share This o·ri·en·tal (ôr'ē-ěn'tl, ōr'-) Pronunciation Key

n. often Oriental Often Offensive An Asian.

o'ri·en'tal·ly adv.

Usage Note: Asian is now strongly preferred in place of Oriental for persons native to Asia or descended from an Asian people. The usual objection to Oriental—meaning "eastern"—is that it identifies Asian countries and peoples in terms of their location relative to Europe. However, this objection is not generally made of other Eurocentric terms such as Near and Middle Eastern. The real problem with Oriental is more likely its connotations stemming from an earlier era when Europeans viewed the regions east of the Mediterranean as exotic lands full of romance and intrigue, the home of despotic empires and inscrutable customs. At the least these associations can give Oriental a dated feel, and as a noun in contemporary contexts (as in the first Oriental to be elected from the district) it is now widely taken to be offensive. However, Oriental should not be thought of as an ethnic slur to be avoided in all situations. As with Asiatic, its use other than as an ethnonym, in phrases such as Oriental cuisine or Oriental medicine, is not usually considered objectionable.


http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_1861684868/Oriental.html

O·ri·en·tal [ àwree ént'l ] or o·ri·en·tal [ àwree ént'l ]
noun (plural O·ri·en·tals) (plural o·ri·en·tals)
Definition:
taboo term: a highly offensive term for somebody from East Asia ( dated )
Word Usage

The adjective and noun Oriental, with reference to people from East Asia, is now regarded as a relic of Western colonialism and should be avoided. The preferred substitute is Asian.

Re: 12.

[infringe.livejournal.com]

I can't tell if this is a serious thing, like calling an Asian person "Oriental,"

. . . since when?

Re: 12.

[(Anonymous)]

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/oriental

American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source - Share This o·ri·en·tal (ôr'ē-ěn'tl, ōr'-) Pronunciation Key

n. often Oriental Often Offensive An Asian.

o'ri·en'tal·ly adv.

Usage Note: Asian is now strongly preferred in place of Oriental for persons native to Asia or descended from an Asian people. The usual objection to Oriental—meaning "eastern"—is that it identifies Asian countries and peoples in terms of their location relative to Europe. However, this objection is not generally made of other Eurocentric terms such as Near and Middle Eastern. The real problem with Oriental is more likely its connotations stemming from an earlier era when Europeans viewed the regions east of the Mediterranean as exotic lands full of romance and intrigue, the home of despotic empires and inscrutable customs. At the least these associations can give Oriental a dated feel, and as a noun in contemporary contexts (as in the first Oriental to be elected from the district) it is now widely taken to be offensive. However, Oriental should not be thought of as an ethnic slur to be avoided in all situations. As with Asiatic, its use other than as an ethnonym, in phrases such as Oriental cuisine or Oriental medicine, is not usually considered objectionable.


http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_1861684868/Oriental.html

O·ri·en·tal [ àwree ént'l ] or o·ri·en·tal [ àwree ént'l ]
noun (plural O·ri·en·tals) (plural o·ri·en·tals)
Definition:
taboo term: a highly offensive term for somebody from East Asia ( dated )
Word Usage

The adjective and noun Oriental, with reference to people from East Asia, is now regarded as a relic of Western colonialism and should be avoided. The preferred substitute is Asian.

Re: 12.

[leinyan.livejournal.com]

ha i'm mancunian ): i'm also confused about when "oriental" became derogatory.

Re: 12.

[kenboy.livejournal.com]

Might be a US-based issue, but yes, you'll often see people saying "carpets are Oriental, people are Asian."

It doesn't (from what I can tell) rise to the level of being a slur or anything like that, but it's definitely A Thing.

Re: 12.

[leinyan.livejournal.com]

they may say that now, although it wasn't like that originally. also initially, the orient used to be what is now basically the middle east. now i would just consider calling somebody oriental it to be an incorrect choice of words, rather than a thing~

Re: 12.

[(Anonymous)]

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/oriental

American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source - Share This o·ri·en·tal (ôr'ē-ěn'tl, ōr'-) Pronunciation Key

n. often Oriental Often Offensive An Asian.

o'ri·en'tal·ly adv.

Usage Note: Asian is now strongly preferred in place of Oriental for persons native to Asia or descended from an Asian people. The usual objection to Oriental—meaning "eastern"—is that it identifies Asian countries and peoples in terms of their location relative to Europe. However, this objection is not generally made of other Eurocentric terms such as Near and Middle Eastern. The real problem with Oriental is more likely its connotations stemming from an earlier era when Europeans viewed the regions east of the Mediterranean as exotic lands full of romance and intrigue, the home of despotic empires and inscrutable customs. At the least these associations can give Oriental a dated feel, and as a noun in contemporary contexts (as in the first Oriental to be elected from the district) it is now widely taken to be offensive. However, Oriental should not be thought of as an ethnic slur to be avoided in all situations. As with Asiatic, its use other than as an ethnonym, in phrases such as Oriental cuisine or Oriental medicine, is not usually considered objectionable.


http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_1861684868/Oriental.html

O·ri·en·tal [ àwree ént'l ] or o·ri·en·tal [ àwree ént'l ]
noun (plural O·ri·en·tals) (plural o·ri·en·tals)
Definition:
taboo term: a highly offensive term for somebody from East Asia ( dated )
Word Usage

The adjective and noun Oriental, with reference to people from East Asia, is now regarded as a relic of Western colonialism and should be avoided. The preferred substitute is Asian.

Re: 12.

[leinyan.livejournal.com]

.... is there a point to this comment?