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See, I don't get why it matters if it religious. FGM is a religious process in some cultures. Should it be legalized?

The feelings of some people in a religion should not outweigh the fact that infants are being mutilated. If it is such an important aspect of their religion, they can wait until people are old enough to choose for themselves to get circumcised or nor.

The benefit about STD prevention is in regards to HIV. And honestly, if you are relying on your lack of foreskin to protect you from HIV, you got bigger problems to worry about.

And mostly harmless ignores the 100+ infants that die in the US every year from a completely unnecessary surgical procedure.

I'm gonna answer you point by point but I want to make one thing clear: I am no great advocate of circumcision! I'm just gleeful for the chance to talk about something I seriously considered studying for the next ten years of my life. :P

FGM can be banned despite its religious element for the same reason stoning an adulteress (to use an extreme example!) can be even though it, too, has religious elements in some cultures--it's actively harmful. Cutting off the foreskin, while I'm sure it stings like shit for awhile, is not. You're right, 100+ infants do die a year due to circumcision, but I'm guessing (and fully willing to admit I could be wrong!) that most of those deaths are due to infection and therefore preventable and also not intrinsically due to circumcision. I agree with you on principle, I really do, I'm just (cringe) playing devil's advocate.

FGM presents a lot of problems down the line, including the risk of complications during pregnancy and childbirth and many more. Circumcision, as I said, does not have any long term effects on physical or sexual function.

And honestly, if you are relying on your lack of foreskin to protect you from HIV, you got bigger problems to worry about. Oh, I couldn't agree more. But it is something people bring up so I thought I'd mention.

The reason parents don't wait is probably comparable to the reason most Christian parents christen or baptize their baby--it's spiritual salvation. It's not about making a choice on the infant's part, it's about the parents demonstrating to God that they know what's what. There's actually a scene in Exodus where God basically halts the action to be like "Moses ya dumbshit did you SERIOUSLY not circumcise your baby son?!"* So there's scriptural precedence for the importance of performing the bris when the child is still an infant. God is a verb in Judaism.

All of this being said I do want to emphasize that you are making incredibly valid points. I just happen to know a lot about the subject and can speak to why it's still so widely practiced and why trying to make people stop is incredibly thorny.

*Due diligence--He could also be saying "did you seriously not circumcise yourself?" People read it both ways.

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