[ SECRET POST #3324 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3324 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Dishonored]


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[One Piece]


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[Kung Fu Panda]


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[Music video: Poets of the Fall, "Daze" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di7NMssrqsE)]


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[Digimon Tri]


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(Pokémon)


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Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 039 secrets from Secret Submission Post #475.
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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I think... part of what's associated with an specific historical time is its society and by changing that the only thing left is the aesthetics.

At that point is not fiction-in-a-historical-setting, but fiction that's inspired by the aesthetics of an era. For people interested in the former, the later is inaccurate and wrong.

OTOH, adding something is just... that, so it's easier to accept as fantasy in *insert here historical time*.

Of course, SF that's no supposed to take place in an specific time or even in earth as we know it is something completely different, but I assume that's not what you're talking about.

[(Anonymous)]

AAAAALLLLLLL OF THIS.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm honestly a little confused by this comment, but I have to say this:

99.9% of the apologia I see for not including any women, people of colour, or LGBT people is revisionist history bullshit by people who don't know history.

All to often I find that the same people who whine about it not being "historically accurate" to have a woman who actually thinks and isn't popping babies out every 8 minutes or having a man of colour who is actually able to navigate society, mysteriously have nothing to say about "historical accuracy" when we have a magical historical fantasy set in like, ancient China that turns into "Ancient China Where Mysteriously Everyone Is White People".


Also, let's be real, when you're writing historical fantasy? All you're using from a typical time period is the aesthetics. I've seen very, very few works that strive to portray daily life as it actually was beyond a very superficial nod to it being a "different time than ours".

[(Anonymous)]

Fantasy =/= Historical fantasy =/= historical fiction.
What want search in each of them is different and I disagree that the aesthetics is the only thing used in historical fantasy (good historical fantasy, at least), though IA that the social aspect can be rather superficial in far too many (mediocre) stories.

And honestly, for all the complains about people wanting "historical accuracy full of white men", I have seen far more people wanting more representation in historical settings while wanting something more modern and illogical for the setting (no, sorry, there won't be an open LGTB community in a setting where homosexuality was illegal; that doesn't mean they can't be LGTB characters, but ffs, don't expect something that contradicts the setting)

[deird1]

Also, let's be real, when you're writing historical fantasy? All you're using from a typical time period is the aesthetics.

Not so much. Yeah, it has dragons fighting Napoleon, but it also has:
- Napoleon
- Laurence being a silly sexist man who is horrified and aghast by women wearing breeches and being "subjected" to the deprivations of the airforce
- Laurence being a slightly racist guy (despite his many good qualities)
- Keynes being convinced that bloodletting is an awesome way of treating illness
- Riley being 100% fine with black slaves
- Laurence thinking that hanging is a perfectly reasonable punishment for treason
- Laurence desperately wishing he could duel someone for calling him a "clodpole"

...the historical attitudes, much as I disagree with them, are part of what I enjoy in the books. Take them away, and you might just as well dress up a modern guy in regency clothing - which wouldn't be nearly as interesting.